Joshbru3
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There has been mention of this sweatband numerous times on the lounge, but there isn't a thread dedicated to it. I personally think that this way of attaching sweatbands is really neat. Because there is some give in the sweatband, they tend to conform to ones head much nicer than a regularly stitched sweatband. At least from my experience. Also, if a hat needs to be cleaned in naptha, re-blocked, or worked on, the sweatband can taken out and put aside until the renovation is done. I just think that Carter was on to something and the idea is very cool.
U.S. Patent: 1977983 (Issued Oct 23, 1934)
Canadian Patent: 354269 (Issued 11-19-1935)
US PATENT
The Canadian patent can be found here:
http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/354269/summary.html?type=number_search
Its interesting because in Carters original patent, it shows the sweatband being attached by a good amount of buttons and then the sweatband ends connect almost like a belt. In the woman's hat drawing, the sweatband is attached by 5 buttons and the sweatband seem is stitched together.
In both my Stephen Stetson and Biltmore Sky Rider the sweatband is attached by only 5 buttons and both have sweatband seams that are stitched. I can not find an updated patent for this updated mens hat design. There is one button in front, one button on each side, and then two buttons in the rear.
Biltmore Sky Rider
Stephen L. Stetson Olympic Quality
*Interesting side note....the original patent number for the Carter Detachable sweatband in the U.S. was 1977983, however the printing on the Stephen Stetson most definitely says 1877983. That patent number belongs to explosion chamber for Holtzwarth Gas Turbine Co. I am unsure if this mistake was corrected or not, but after looking at the sweatband a dozen times, it most definitely has the wrong patent number printed.
U.S. Patent: 1977983 (Issued Oct 23, 1934)
Canadian Patent: 354269 (Issued 11-19-1935)
US PATENT
The Canadian patent can be found here:
http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/354269/summary.html?type=number_search
Its interesting because in Carters original patent, it shows the sweatband being attached by a good amount of buttons and then the sweatband ends connect almost like a belt. In the woman's hat drawing, the sweatband is attached by 5 buttons and the sweatband seem is stitched together.
In both my Stephen Stetson and Biltmore Sky Rider the sweatband is attached by only 5 buttons and both have sweatband seams that are stitched. I can not find an updated patent for this updated mens hat design. There is one button in front, one button on each side, and then two buttons in the rear.
Biltmore Sky Rider
Stephen L. Stetson Olympic Quality
*Interesting side note....the original patent number for the Carter Detachable sweatband in the U.S. was 1977983, however the printing on the Stephen Stetson most definitely says 1877983. That patent number belongs to explosion chamber for Holtzwarth Gas Turbine Co. I am unsure if this mistake was corrected or not, but after looking at the sweatband a dozen times, it most definitely has the wrong patent number printed.
