Aero Leather Clothing trial update

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by Sloan1874, May 1, 2015.

  1. IXL

    IXL One Too Many

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    Young people today don't remain confused very long. They do a three-second Google search from their phones and "voila" (to suggest an appearance as if by magic, if you will)....instantly knowledgeable younger people.
     
  2. Sloan1874

    Sloan1874 I'll Lock Up

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    Actually, dragging the thread by its neck back on topic, Eggleman's jacket, judging by the loss of colour on the pocket lip, looks as if it was one made by ST when he was properly employed by Aero back in the mid-90s. So you're fine there, man.
    Personally, I'm over the moon about the sale. Unfortunately, the courts still have the stock clogging up their store rooms, so it may be a while yet. I'm told that when they were bringing it down from Aero, it filled the back of a transit van floor-to-ceiling and even then they had stick stuff into the front as well.
     
  3. IXL

    IXL One Too Many

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    ^^^^ So, did you see anything in my size? :D
     
  4. Sloan1874

    Sloan1874 I'll Lock Up

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    To quote the trial:

    Lauder's items came in a range of waist sizes from 30 to 38, and various leg lengths... the accused “wasn't just preparing for an expanding waist, he was preparing for [leg] shrinkage.”

    So, we're talking: 160 jackets (75 leather ones - more than twice the number in Aero's showroom prior to KC's return). Also some 159 pairs of Levi's, 47 sets of Lee jeans,18 pairs of limited edition boxed Wrangler jeans.

    Basically, we're talking about a pop-up shop!
     
  5. Hide'n'seek

    Hide'n'seek One of the Regulars

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    Field day!?!... I can tell you that its been far from a field day, it’s been one of the hardest thing we could of ever gone through, either as a business or a family.
    As for Will lauders reputation he’s brought this onto himself and to his family, I’ve had to see the pain and distress my family have been through, my mother has aged 20 years in the last 2 years and the last 5 months has been in and out of hospital.
    The “grand sale” you talk of is all items bought and paid for by Aero and then stolen by Will Lauder, We are now forced into selling the recovered goods at heavily reduced prices, these goods were almost never recovered and we will never know exactly how much was taken. The sale will never recover everything.
    As for the PR, we would rather none of this whole sorry story had ever happened.

    I really did not want to make any comments on this thread, and have bit my lip on a number of occasions, but felt I had to comment here. ( This is not an official Aero post )
     
  6. kronos77

    kronos77 One of the Regulars

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  7. kronos77

    kronos77 One of the Regulars

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    Stand By,

    Who ever used the word heretic to describe Will and why did you?
     
  8. jlanderson

    jlanderson One of the Regulars

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    There's a simple solution to your "problem," sir. Don't read this thread. Pretty easy.
     
  9. eggleman

    eggleman One of the Regulars

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    Despite some of the rancor between forum members
    I'm sure all of us wish you and your family all the best in getting through all this
     
  10. Sloan1874

    Sloan1874 I'll Lock Up

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    Somehow, we seem to be losing sight of who the real victims are here.
    As Denny has felt compelled to point out, it is the Calders who have had to bear the strain of the investigation and its fall-out for the past three years.

    Remember, even at sentencing,
    1. Lauder was still insisting on his innocence, despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary.
    2. He was still making up his evidence in court - yes, making it up. On the stand he suddenly claimed that taking all that stuff was part of a deal struck with Ken. This forced the prosecution to recall KC, who made a six hour round trip from his home to rebut this new fantasy.
    3. Lydia had to give evidence when she was so frail that she was given dispensation to remain seated in the witness box
    4. Every business dealing since 2012 has been carried out under the shadow of this court case. There have been sly insinuations made about Aero, and they must have been hard to bear.
     
  11. Girl on a Motorcycle

    Girl on a Motorcycle New in Town

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    +1
     
  12. Fanch

    Fanch I'll Lock Up

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  13. Monitor

    Monitor I'll Lock Up

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    Hide 'n' Seek, I think that... I don't think this is what Standy By meant at all, that you guys ever had it easy or that you've ever had a field day. God knows it wasn't so. It's just that he, same as myself and a few others I guess, doesn't particularly enjoy watching people reveling at anyone's misfortune - and I'm not saying this is something anyone ITT was doing, but it's just that some of the posts definitely give off such impression - same as I am sure your family doesn't really want to see WL suffer as well. It was a horror reading about what has happened to your company and to your family and their life's work, but it is by the same empathy that makes me feel sorry for WL at this point - not just because he's going to jail, but because of every bad decision he had ever made. He's done so much harm to your family, there's no denying this, but I'm sure you would rather none of this ever happened, if you know what I mean. From what I understood, the man was a close friend with you guys and sure, he did what he did, but I'm sure you would rather just let it all go now that it's all over, and forget any of it ever happened, and just move on to a better tomorrow - which is the point Stand By was trying to make. More for your sake than WL's. :)
     
  14. Sloan1874

    Sloan1874 I'll Lock Up

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    I think it's presumptious and inappropriate to make any assumptions about how the Calders should feel, really. It's one thing to feel horror at reading something, another to have to live it.
     
  15. Monitor

    Monitor I'll Lock Up

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    It is. And I apologize. I'll keep it quiet from now on, just that I don't enjoy seeing good people arguing, is all...
     
  16. Exactly...and now this thread is swinging too far to that side of the issue. From one extreme to the other. Angry exaggerated outbursts to elaborate scolding about how others should react. I tend to look at this deliberate mess as some proven prosecution delivered, but much more deception and fraud lurking in the background that may sadly never face a just resolve.
    HD
     
  17. pawineguy

    pawineguy One Too Many

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    I was trying to figure out how to word a reply when you popped in and posted. The idea that this is somehow good publicity and that the fire sale is a positive for you is totally laughable. Most of us know better and would much rather you and your family have been spared this entire mess, as the company already had a very high reputation when it was handed to Will Lauder to operate. I don't know one lick about Scottish law, but here in the U.S. we speak often about a director's fiduciary duty to his investors. Even without the theft he failed all of the shareholders miserably. Your forced sale of stolen goods will only recoup a fraction of the loss, which goes well beyond just the theft.
     
  18. pawineguy

    pawineguy One Too Many

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    Yes HD. This gray area (and I'm not going to play naive, we can all figure out what happened here) is what emboldens people to say we should all just be quiet now, but as you note, justice has been FAR from served at this point.
     
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  19. Monitor

    Monitor I'll Lock Up

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    Again, I apologize! And it certainly wasn't my intention to tell anyone how should they react or feel - I was speaking only from my perspective, how I imagine would feel, while trying to defend a point my friend made, all of which obviously was a mistake as I had no right to speak of things that do not concern me.

    Once again, I'm sorry. I'll keep my mouth shut.
     
  20. Big J

    Big J Call Me a Cab

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    Denny, I can't apologize enough to you for my e-mails to you last year. I feel so embarrassed. I didn't have a clue as to how serious Aero's situation was.
     

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