We guessed identically. It's funny how we both thought the steer was the Vicenca and the Vicenca was goat. I own three CLX steerhide jackets and none of them look even anything close to to this steerhide sample. Same for the Vicenca, looks nothing and I mean nothing alike my Vicenca jacket. @Fortehus you really shouldnt make up your opinions on these samples, they are straight up missleading.