Engineer Boots, Harness Boots...

Discussion in 'General Attire & Accoutrements' started by Creeping Past, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. Edward

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    How did you find the Sendra? Comparable to Redwing or Chippewa?
     
  2. Rigs

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    I have to confess I have never tried Redwing engineer boots or Chippewa, but the Sendra needed the addition of an insole to make them feel more comfortable than a rigger boot, but can't fault their durability. They are my regular motorcycle boot in all weathers so I would rate them highly as a functional boot, but for looks and quality they are a world away from Wesco.

    When I look at boots twice the price of Wesco I struggle to see how the quality is substantially better when I look at the 7400 last of the boots I have. The stitching is perfect and wear them all day pretty much every day.
     
  3. Bfd70

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    In my admittedly limited experience, brands that cost 2xs as much as much as Wesco are not 2xs better. I’ve now owned both Wesco with some beyond stock mods (basically priced in the high 6s) and Lofgren. Lofgren are more comfortable out of the box but not necessarily 1.5 xs as much. The design just Fits me better. I paid near $750 for my Wesco but rarely wore them because for my foot profile they were uncomfortable. I don’t take my Lofgren off. Therefore for me worth the ^$
     
  4. Rigs

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    I know what you mean, I still can't shake the feeling that what I really need is a lovely pair of Role Clubs and then I am done, but then go and spend ages drooling hopefully over the Wesco discounted pages.
     
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  5. Mich486

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    This is a pair of Red Wing 2268 relasted/resoled by Dr. Sole (not mine unfortunately). I think if Red Wing made these I wouldn’t bother with any of the more expensive makers. Isn’t it all about the last?

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  6. Rigs

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    Wow, they look good.

    I think you are right, the last and comfort are key. I like the profile of the Wesco boot as it has the flatter toe profile without the more bulbous steel toe cap bulge, but I know some prefer this on the grounds of comfort and practicality.

    The long and short of it seems to be that most engineers just look great with jean's and give their own distinctive look. I love them .
     
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  7. Edward

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    Sound like they're not far off the Redwings. I tend to find with engineers I often need an insole (the exception being my Chippewas, which became a great fit once I stretched the left leg enough to comfortably pull the boot on. Still can't ear thick boot socks with them). The Wescos do indeed look amazing; if ever the pound recovers against the dollar (it's currently worth about half of what it was when I joined TFL!), I probably will get myself some Wescos - likely in brown, as I'm well covered for black boots for now.

    As with anything, after a certain point the law of diminishing returns hits hard; also, given the nature of the market, price is inevitably hit by exclusivity. E.g. there are only so many makers producing the lower profile, earlier-style boot, and they tend to be clustered at the top end while the lower-priced boots are more often the bump-toe style.

    Certainly that sort of fit thing can make all the difference. I almost gave up on my first pair of engineers (Grinders) until I hit upon slipping in a chunky foam insole with good arch support, and it transformed them for me, from something I couldn't walk too far in to an all-day comfort boot. If it was a matter of a hundred or even two ton on a boot that was totally comfortable on a daily basis versus one that was no fun to wear and so lay in the back of the closet, it's certainly a no brainer. Comfort really does have to come into the value calculation in a big way.

    I would agree that's a thing... and if only high end, expensive providers make that style, then it's always going to be one you have to pay big for if that's what you want.

    I do wonder about the future of engineer boots, especially if it is true that Chippewa are getting out of that game. The circles in which we move could well distort our view of the size of the actual market, but you'd think if they are doing that, RedWing's heritage range would do well out of a boot like this. I do see some very nice looking, RW level priced boots on Rakuten, but while realtively "cheap" they're still a bit much to pick up to try on the basis that a return would be so impractical.

    I still wish Aero would have a look at something like this; I have no doubt they could produce a boot of equivalent quality to those, in the same style, at a competitive rate. Somewhere around GBP300-400.... which is not cheap, but for a pair of serious 'last a lifetime with the occasional resoling' boots, worth it.
     
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    B18853D5-716E-4E8E-836D-C9FFD2C3BA57.jpeg Today I like these. Lug so,es make them look like shit kickers.
     
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  9. Mich486

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    Mmm... yeah I wouldn’t use them for anything else [emoji12]


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  10. Edward

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    I really like the variation in the colour on those. Aesthetically I prefer a flat sole, but I wouldn't be without at least one pair with lugs as in heavy rain or snow they really come into their own. S'why I keep my old Grinders around, despite my Red Wings being technically much nicer boots.

    Are these yours, or...?
     
  11. regius

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    Dr Sole, I have heard of them for a while & have several pairs of re-soled boots with their product. But I only visited their site today. On their Journal page, most posts are in Chinese. The people in their main page photos also seem to be Asian. Where are they based? What’s their history? They also do relasting & extensive repair, beautiful work.


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    I’m pretty sure they are in Taiwan.


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  15. Killick

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    I thought I'd take a pic of the boots after two years. That is actually about a year's worth of wear as I'm not really a boot wearer in the summer months.
    These are the most comfortable boots I think I've ever owned. They broke in beautifully. I was reading my original post about my left shin rubbing and being sore. I didn't have to do anything. The boots just broke in perfectly!

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    Good update. In the original pictures they appear brown and now appear black. Did they darken or is it lighting?
     
  17. Mich486

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    Nice! How did you go about sizing these?


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  20. kenucklehead

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    Question for everyone...

    If you were to build your perfect pair of Engineer boots, what are the characteristics you'd want to see? Some things that come to mind for me would be:

    1. Japanese roller buckles
    2. Longish instep straps (extending an about 2 inches from buckle)
    3. unstructured, slightly flatter toe box
    4. horsebutt leather with a nice pull-up... brown/tan base vs died right through
    5. 1 5/8" - 1 3/4" heel height

    How many rows of stitching do you prefer (2 or 3 or other)?
    Storm welt or not?
    Vibram or Cats Paw soles/heels?
    Stitch-down or nailed down?
    Shaft height?
    Rolled or cut top edge of shaft?

    Which of the major vintage-style, hand-made brands is your favourite and why?
    Lofgren
    Role Club
    Attractions
    Mr. Freedom
    Clinch
    Real McCoy
    Toys McCoy
    Other?

    I may have the opportunity to help design something and wanted to know what people like and why. Would be interested in hearing people's thoughts.
     
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