To clarify my opinion on them. I dont mind graining and I dont mind wrinkling happening eventually. I dont like how the toe caps have literally like no grain but the side panels do. I would like a more uniform look whether its grain, or no grain. Im not opposed to leather having natural graining or even scars and marks. In some boots that a feature not a flaw. I also dont like it looking that wrinkly fresh out of the box. If I were buying used or 2nds doesnt matter. If they were mine and I wore them for 6 months and they developed like that also fine. Its the fact to me its fresh out of the box that way and no uniformity to them, and I doubt were advertised that way. I could be wrong though if the sale photos or advertising language spoke about the natural graining of the leather etc.....well then thats on the buyer.