My leather jacket database.

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by Carlos840, May 14, 2018.

  1. Monitor

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    No, no, it was just the jacket, bunched up in a ball, placed on a post office scale. Came out at a breath over 4 kg. Let's say 4 kg. Natal was 4.2 kg with the box, can't say how heavy it really was but Tony say it's one of the heaviest jackets he's ever had. My first Natal, the cafe racer, that thing was 4.6 kg and that I had a chance to check several times. I never, EVER had a jacket that heavy and nothing that even got close. It was also one of my favorite jackets in the world and I deeply regret moving it. It was badly made though sturdy as a tank but the leather was just... It was something else.
    Anyway, while none of my Vanson jackets proved to be all that weight-wise, the SD is definitely a beastly jacket. Like I said, I think it's the kidney panel and the pockets are lined in heavy denim but regardless, it's still very heavy.
     
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  2. JMax

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    Here is what I have::

    LW PJ27 Russet Horsehide: 7.31 lbs
    LW CHP Black Horsehide: 7.6 lbs
    LW J23 Black Horsehide: 8.6 lbs
    LW Trojan Black Horsehide: 8 Lbs

    Same range as you and RD.
     
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  3. Carlos840

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    Converted to same unit for clarity, thanks guys, i like numbers!

    @red devil (size44) :

    LW Buco J-24 Black Horsehide 3.56kg / 7.85lb
    LW Speed Demon Black Horsehide 3.62kg / 7.98
    LW Trojan Green & Navy Moose hide 3.78kg / 8.30lb
    LW Suburban Russet Horsehide 2.615kg / 5.77lb (3.5oz)
    LW J24 Navy Deerskin 2.84kg / 6.26lb (3.5oz)
    LW Leathertogs Navy Horsehide 2.98kg / 6.58lb (3oz)

    @JMax (size 44):

    LW PJ27 Russet Horsehide: 3.32kg / 7.31 lbs
    LW CHP Black Horsehide: 3.44kg / 7.6 lbs
    LW J23 Black Horsehide: 3.9kg / 8.6 lbs
    LW Trojan Black Horsehide: 3.6kg / 8 Lbs

    Carlos840 (size 42):

    LW J-23: 2.98kg / 6.57lb
    LW Leathertogs: 3.44kg / 7.58lb

    So my J-23 really is a lightweight LW after all!
     
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  4. El Marro

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    My most recent LW, the Ryder in black 3.5 oz horsehide, would probably be right up your alley. I would compare the weight and thickness of the hide to my Good Wear Ventura in Shinki horsehide. If anything the LW is probably a bit thinner and it is really beginning to show some beautiful grain and character.
     
  5. Carlos840

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    If you have an accurate way to weigh your LW jackets i would love the info too...
     
  6. red devil

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    Let me add to those then

    Lost Worlds Suburban Russet Horsehide 2615g / 5.77lb (3.5oz)
    Lost Worlds J24 Navy Deerskin 2840g / 6.26lb (3.5oz)
    Lost Worlds Custom Leathertogs Navy Horsehide 2985g / 6.58lb (3oz)

    The leather weights are just what I have understood, no way for me to check in any relevant way. My Leathertogs is at the same weights as your J23 it seems
     
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  7. navetsea

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    don't forget to tare the hanger's weight :)
     
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  8. red devil

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    For some reason I can't because of the locking function, so I just substract it from the total
     
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  9. navetsea

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    perhaps that is a more precise way, the act of putting a jacket on the hanger with the scale on might add extra weight
     
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  10. red devil

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    Yes, I always weigh the hangers first.
    There seems to be a variability of about 30g between same hangers (got a big batch ages ago as I knew I would need them :D)
     
  11. Carlos840

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    Try turning the scales on with the empty hanger hanging already, it should tare when it starts and will then show -xxx when you remove the hanger.


    Interesting that my J-23 is around 3oz, but still much heavier than an Aero CXLHH that is supposed to be 3-3.5oz.
    I think it kinda shows the limitation of using a unit of weight to describe thickness...
    It would only make sens to do so if all leather had the same weight per specific thickness, which isn't the case.
     
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  12. El Marro

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    My CHP comes in a little over 8 lbs according to a large digital postal scale at a warehouse I was working in last year. I could weigh the Ryder, but it would be using the bathroom scale technique which you advised is not terribly accurate. I may have to order a real scale so I can keep up with you guys here!
     
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  13. red devil

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    A hanging scale is pretty cheap :)
     
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  14. Monitor

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    Okay, some numbers to add to the list...

    Lost World Speed Demon: 3.90 kg according to the kitchen scale
    Aero Cafe Racer: 2.80 kg

    ...that's about all I got.
     
  15. Hh121

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    Crazy.....
     
  16. JMax

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    The last few posts focused on jacket weight and talk of scales should be right up your alley.
     
  17. Hh121

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    It used to be.
    Now I divide the heavyweight to four categories.
    1. The jacket feels heavy but not neccecery too thick : All 3-3.5 oz some times 4oz jacket. and Kadoya I had, weight 8.8 lbs.
    2. The jacket feels not too heavy but leather is actually thick : Vanson dominator I had weight 7.8 lbs, soft and pliable but leather is super thick.
    3. The jacket feels light but actually heavyweight : Schott p613s horween steerhide, probably because of weight distrubute well.
    4. The jacket feels heavy and actually is heavyweight : LW 4oz plus cross zip jacket.
     
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  18. KissMyMuscle

    KissMyMuscle One of the Regulars

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    Polo ralph lauren moto jacket XL, 2100g/ 4.62lb
    Schott B3 size 44, 2500g/5.51 lb
    Vanson Chopper Size Large/43,3.75oz. 3200g/ 7.05 lb
    Lost World J-24 with belt size 44,4oz. 3700g/ 8.15 lb
    Custom motorcycle jacket,5oz. 4.45kg/9.81 lb

    My Aero FQhh premier highwayman 46 is still in my friend's house in UK, his roughly measured result is around 2.5 kg/ 5.51lb
     
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  19. ultrark2004

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    As a professional mechanic for 47 years, in recharging air conditioning's they require a precise amount of freon to be added. i used a freon scale to measure 4 jackets. Did not measure any of my LL goat or Cow Jackets or my Cal LAPD
    LW Trojan HH size 44 with the fur collar but forgot the belt 7.8 lb 3.5 kg
    LW J23 HH 46s forgot the collar & belt 7.56 lb 3.43 kg
    Aero Chips HH size 40 5.6 lb 2.5 kg
    Cal Leather Cross zip size 44 5.7 lb 2.6 kg
     
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  20. Captain Sensible

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    Can you show us this scale? I'd imagine there is greater resolution than 1 or 2 dp?
     

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