My third Freewheelers Jacket - The Mulholland

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by dudewuttheheck, May 16, 2019.

  1. Monitor

    Monitor I'll Lock Up

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    Seconded. I am absolutely sure I would die in a leather jacket in a 25+C temperature. Or in a denim jacket at 30C temps. Like, literally. It's been 32C today where I am and I'm feeling like someone's choking me even in just a linen t-shirt.

    It is simply impossible for me to wear a leather jacket at anything over 23C (77-ish F). I'll start feeling uncomfortable if I'm exerting myself to any extent even at like 20C.

    I seriously don't understand how you can do that, @navetsea . That's not a difference of a few degrees, that's a drastic difference (species have been known to go extinct because of a much tinier change in climate). Turtleneck and a lined leather jacket at 26C... Man.
     
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  2. zebedee

    zebedee Practically Family

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    I used to really suffer in any kind of heat before I moved to Asia. Now I am able to wear an Aero at 20C quite easily. Anything below 17C and I will feel cold. I can walk about all day in 30-32C heat quite comfortably as long as I have linen and fairly long shorts- in fact, I enjoy it. Around 36C is not much fun, though.
     
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  3. navetsea

    navetsea Call Me a Cab

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    liner material make difference more than the leather, I can't wear fleece hoodies here because it will make me sweat instantly, same with waxed denim jacket, other people wear parkas and hoodies over flannel shirt, compared to that I'm nothing special .
    husband of my aunt is dutch he wear turtle neck here, and at night leather "jacket" mandarin style coat too (looks like lamb or calf)
    once you settling in you can to a point adapt to local climate.
     
  4. zebedee

    zebedee Practically Family

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    The ideal leather for hotter parts of Asia is goat- it's light enough to allow ventilation, dense enough not to mildew (in almost 20 years, I've never seen leather rot in humidity, even if just stored in a cupboard, as long as there's ventilation).

    I was walking around quite jauntily in the UK's 'heatwave' a few days ago, but I sympathise with people who really can't stand it. I reckon it took me 18 months to adjust fully to humidity and heat. I couldn't imagine wearing leather in southern Vietnam, though- Hong Kong and Taiwan (both of which have winters) are fine, but much further south I'd rather have breathable fabrics at all times. One thing I couldn't do was wear leather at Palo Alto temperatures- the heat was just too flat, bright and dry for me, and, when I did wear a leather jacket in the evening, I felt daft and bought something lighter. Much of Asia has a sort of 'dull' heat- it's often overcast and that makes things a bit easier, but I wouldn't go out of my way to wear a leather jacket if the weather didn't allow me to do so comfortably- if I'm sweating, I wear something else.
     
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  5. nick123

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    70F is about my threshold. Last year in LA it was 1 degree warmer than Death Valley, CA. 116F or something. Breathing was even hard. You could smell the heat days after the event. I too am a chronic sweater. But it's probably the Zoloft.
     
  6. felix03

    felix03 One of the Regulars

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    When I lived in Northern IN, 50 degrees was t-shirt weather. I've acclimated to NorCal so anything below 65 degrees is jacket weather. And 50 calls for a winter coat!
     
  7. Big J

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    I think it depends on phenotype (for want of not getting into race/ethnicity semantics).
    Japanese people wearing sweaters in June when I'd wear just a shirt, and wearing down coats in March, when I'd wear a t-shirt and a flight jacket.
    I can't take the heat in Singapore, but the Singaporeans seem to take it fine without sweating like they are in the shower.
    Likewise, in Sheffield in winter I was fine, but I guy I knew from Barbados went out like he was crossing Antarctica.
    @zebedee, yes, Asia always seems to have an overcast in summer (although Vietnam era fighter pilots always describe it as an undercast due to its altitude). Fun fact! Eastman Kodak film flopped on release in Japan because the colors all look dull because of the overcast; the japanese want bright high contrast images like they see in Hollywood movies. Eastman changed the formula to make the colors 'pop'- Japanese satisfied, and every 60's to digital era color photo of Japan is totally misleading about weather and light conditions.
     
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  8. navetsea

    navetsea Call Me a Cab

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    there as many days in clear sky and overcast here in the summer, sun is torching in clear days, all motorcyclist wear long sleeve or denim jacket, if not then youll get very serious tan. on motorcycle leather jacket to me feels better than denim jacket, it blocks the heat from the sun exposure better, in denim I feel my back and my arm prickly burning on the hottest day, in the shade I say it is leather jacket day everyday except for some stiffly hot days that is usually on the beginning of wet season like october not in the dry season. if you wear black tshirt here outside in the sun doing regular activity like daily morning walk, within weeks it will change into cloudy grey or brown or blue whatever color the black is composed from, maybe that's how jeans fades here, UV rays is rad.
     
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  9. zebedee

    zebedee Practically Family

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    That is cool- I had wondered if Asia enjoyed better weather 60 years ago...
     
  10. Rich22

    Rich22 One of the Regulars

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    I’ve learnt from 8 years in Asia that I’m unusually good at tolerating extreme heat outdoors, so long as I’m dressed for it, which means shorts and a t shirt. I hate wearing a suit when it gets sweaty (eg over 24 degrees), and can wear jeans up to 30 degrees.

    I’ve also realised I’m terrible with cold (let’s say below 12 degrees) weather. Especially when it’s hanging around 0, I just hate it, and even in the warmest gear I end up uncomfortable. 18-25 is pretty perfect for me as a outdoor temp range.

    Only time I don’t want heat is when I sleep- UK summers with no AC used to ruin my sleep, and similarly Chinese hotels screw me right up. There’s a “law” in China that states hotels cannot run central AC below 26 in summer. Which is about 4 degrees above where I need the temperature to be to sleep restfully. My male Western colleagues also have a problem with this, but Western women and Asian men and women don’t tend to mind.

    The leather jacket appears far more prevalent in China than the UK, and it surprises me how many people can wander around in one seemingly comfortably between 30-35 degrees. I’d be melting.
     

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