Like Micheal Herr said, you can't take the glamour out of war. How do you take the glamour out of an M-16 or a Huey? (I'm paraphrasing from memory, but that's kinda what he said). It would seem completely rational to put war right up their with murder as socially unacceptable, and deglamourize it. And that's fine if it stops countries playing power politics with ordinary lives. But what would we do the next time someone like Hitler pops up who is intent on exterminating our human rights, and our young people won't use violence to protect themselves? Vietnam is murky and full of interesting 'maybe's' and 'if's', likewise Korea. All the 'liberal wars' fought since then, well that's not so simple which is why FL rules rightly make it a no-go area. For me, this is why WWII, the era, society, and people are so attractive to me; I honestly believe that it was literally a battle between genuine good and evil. And no matter how imperfect 'we' were, the other side were exterminating whole races, and if we'd lost, they'd have exterminated us too. It seems pretty clear cut to me, and it's very simple to admire and respect not only our veterans but also every member of our society whose lives were turned upside down by the war effort. They didn't deserve it.