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The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

VoodooSan

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I haven't had a chance to read all 493 pages here yet, but what I read in one post led me to believe this is a 1936-to 1953 vintage. Was I correct, or way off? Any info greatly appreciated!

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Daniele Tanto

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Verona - Italia
I haven't had a chance to read all 493 pages here yet, but what I read in one post led me to believe this is a 1936-to 1953 vintage. Was I correct, or way off? Any info greatly appreciated!
I think it is more younger. Around Sixties or early Seventies.
It is a very nice hat and arrived from Balbi shop in Naples where the US Army (Navy) based in Bagnoli bought hats for less than in the US
 

VoodooSan

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I think it is more younger. Around Sixties or early Seventies.
It is a very nice hat and arrived from Balbi shop in Naples where the US Army (Navy) based in Bagnoli bought hats for less than in the US
Thank you, sir. I obviously did not correctly interpret the thread about under-lining tags their serrated edges!
 
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Nederland
After seeing Alan's one I couldn't pass up on this Marca Colombo. navy velour, probably just around WWII based on the tags and style. I love that hand and quality of these earlier Italian velour.
Wow, Wayne. That is a stunner you have found yourself there! Love everything about it.
 
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Just to be complete.
Modern Borsalino fedora in a mirtillo blue, which was a nice surprise, because seller sold it as black to me. Size 57 with the raw edge brim at 6,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. The liner shows it's been worn, but what can you do? Not vintage Borsalino but it was destined for resale anyway (hence the white background). Weighs 106 grams.

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This hat has a wonderful peach finish. The crown is thin and light enough to blow a crease into. The open crown is 5 ½” and the bound brim is 2 ¼” wide. The label is very hard to read. No store branding.

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Superb looking hat, Brent. It would take some dead sea scroll kind of scanning to extract anything from that label though! Strange for such a pristine looking hat.

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Steve1857

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This hat has a wonderful peach finish. The crown is thin and light enough to blow a crease into. The open crown is 5 ½” and the bound brim is 2 ¼” wide. The label is very hard to read. No store branding.

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Wonderful looking Borsalino, Brent.

Due to the serrated edges, what's left of the paper label suggests a date between 1936 and 1960. The shape, wide ribbon, and wind cord say ca. 1950s to me.

That's just my 2 cents worth.
 

Daniele Tanto

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Superb looking hat, Brent. It would take some dead sea scroll kind of scanning to extract anything from that label though! Strange for such a pristine looking hat.
I made the same reasoning about the appearance of the hat and the discarded paper label.
I don't want to seem fussy, but it seems to me like a reconstruction of a Borsalino at a certain point in his life.
The wide hem on the brims is the feature that seems least similar to the Borsalino finishes
Due to the serrated edges, what's left of the paper label suggests a date between 1936 and 1960. The shape, wide ribbon, and wind cord say ca. 1950s to me.

That's just my 2 cents worth.
I agree with your dating Steve, but I think it can be attributed to a certain period in which the hat was "modernized"
 

Steve1857

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I made the same reasoning about the appearance of the hat and the discarded paper label.
I don't want to seem fussy, but it seems to me like a reconstruction of a Borsalino at a certain point in his life.
The wide hem on the brims is the feature that seems least similar to the Borsalino finishes

I agree with your dating Steve, but I think it can be attributed to a certain period in which the hat was "modernized"
I think you could well be right, Daniele. There do appear to be some anomalies.
 
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Early 1960s (I think) Savona. Is Monbasa new to the thread?

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This wind trolley string was about half again as long as I’m used to and I could not get the button to land near the bow.

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Cool find, Bob. Not a new colour; both Mombasa and Monbasa have been seen before, but it doesn't show up often.
 

RickP

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After finding an article online about the famous archer Fred Bear and one of his Borsalino fedoras, Ive got my curiosity up. From what Ive read he bought all his hats From Harry the Hatter in Detroit ( as well as some gift hats he ordered for people that were just like his). I sent their customer service a note to see if they may still have records about exactly what model it actually was but havent heard back yet. (its a narrow brim binding and what looks like about a 1/2" hatband ribbon ... reminds me of my old Moose River, but with a bound edge and nicer felt. Ive seen pictures of him in what looks like a stetson- like silverbelly, tawny, and sage type colors ). Curious if anyone here has gone down the "Fred Bear" rabbit hole, and have any more information? As he was one of my heroes in the archery world, and caused me to buy my first fedora as a teen back in the early 70's, it would so cool to figure out what he wore and find a copy
 

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