Here it is with t-shirt. These are low rise jeans and I wore them as they are what I wore with my HWM fit pics and they became my baseline. Both the HWM and this BR are 25.5" length, which works great for low and normal rise jeans, I feel. The HWM is perfect. On my order, I'm having the front zip start 1" from the hem as opposed to 3" like on this jacket. That will definitely help cinch everything up and negate the illusion of it being too short. Your cordovan BR was a big influencer on ordering so soon. I was going to get tumbled cordovan, but the dark seal Vicenza turned out to be the exact color I want.