Yeah noticeable difference. A short time back in the gym can make a world of difference. Just a little change in shoulder shape could raise the sleeve length and a little on the bicep gave you a fitted look. P
Plus the wrinkles on the sleeves
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Plus the wrinkles on the sleeves
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I discussed the tight fit option with Rip, too, when ordering my Corsair, but figured out quickly that it's not gonna fit me at all. Besides the oddities you describe, also the sleeves were way too tight.
This is how a tight fit Dominator looks (can't imagine how odd it would look like on me with a completely different body type):
I just don't get it; what's the point with the wide hem?
Anyone that has placed a custom order, do I just check “other”. On the LewisLeather site?
I received my email today and they can do make the sheep in sizes over their specified 42 listed on the site.
I’ve read this whole thread and all have said Rip guided them through the process as if it was hands on.
The email I received was very brief just stating I should be comfortable in a size 48. As if I was just going off the rack even though I explained that I’m short with a wide chest. If I ordered a regular size 48 the sleeves would be at my fingertips.
If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
I received my email today and they can do make the sheep in sizes over their specified 42 listed on the site.
I’ve read this whole thread and all have said Rip guided them through the process as if it was hands on.
The email I received was very brief just stating I should be comfortable in a size 48. As if I was just going off the rack even though I explained that I’m short with a wide chest. If I ordered a regular size 48 the sleeves would be at my fingertips.
If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Based on my prior experiences, the sizing information you fill in when placing your initial order on the website is kind of irrelevant as this will be followed up on by Rip to ascertain your actual measurements, body type and any other requests or valuable information that the customer would want taken into account for his jacket. (larger fit, slimmer fit, longer fit etc.)
The only relevant information kept from the website order in my case was the jacket model, leather type and color.
I have been able to make changes to my orders after placing my order and paying on the website directly with Rip. (in my case I changed the inner lining type 2x)
So once you place your order on the website, you will receive an automated email from LL signed by Rip, however, Rip should also follow up with you directly to make sure you confirm the information submitted to them before they process your order.
Once that is done, he will share with you an order form PDF containing your final measurements, jacket information, lining, zipper tape color, LL badge type etc.
This process is made easier after your first order, when ordering a second jacket onwards as they usually will ask whether you want to go with your same initial measurements directly or whether you want to make any edits or if any changes or necessary based on the jacket type being ordered. (in my case I was told the Cyclone comes in a bit shorter at the belt than the Lightning so I was able to ask them to make it a bit longer)
Please let me know if there is any other info I didn't cover on the ordering process - hope the above helps!
Thank you that helps tremendously. I am going with the Super Sportman. I wish all linings are available for all models, I am in Florida and it’s hot and humid most of the year so I will probably get the black lining but i with the viscose was available on the body.
I also wish you could move the cuff zipper to the top like the dominator and even add a coin zipper but I guess you can’t customize everything. I’m just glad they had sheep over a size 42 or else I would have to dig deeper for the Veg Cow which sounds amazing by all counts but that’s halfway to another jacket so I’m playing it safe.
What’s the thought on length on the Super Sportman, shorter or longer?
I’m somewhere around 5’10” with shoes.
I also wish you could move the cuff zipper to the top like the dominator and even add a coin zipper but I guess you can’t customize everything. I’m just glad they had sheep over a size 42 or else I would have to dig deeper for the Veg Cow which sounds amazing by all counts but that’s halfway to another jacket so I’m playing it safe.
What’s the thought on length on the Super Sportman, shorter or longer?
I’m somewhere around 5’10” with shoes.
Happy to help, also another important point is the black viscous satin is available for the body as far as I know. My pictured lightning above has it as the lining for the whole jacket and I also requested it for one of my incoming jackets. (They also have the black nylon lining which Rip said was rougher but their most breathable lining which might be better for you in FL)
As for the jacket dimensions, I believe @MrProper would be able to better help as he recently ordered a sportsman from LL if memory serves.
The Super Sportsman would have to be like my Racing Jacket, just without pads.
This model has virtually no front drop. i.e. the jacket must be long enough in the back so that it is not too short in the front.
In general I would wear it rather short. Mine just covers the belt on low/mid waist jeans.
It is important that Rip gives you the measurements of P2P and shoulder width. There are charts for each size.
Shoulder width can be changed, but I think only after the first order.
Zippers and pockets I would just ask. But probably it doesn't look that good because LL wants to stay close to the original. Rip said they used to do something like that, but the owner doesn't want it.
I wanted a Monza without pads but that didn't work.
So size requested and then get the length, sleeve length and taper to the desired measurements.
If the viscose is available for the body that might be the way to go, anything non synthetic.
I think Rip was a little mixed up in saying nylon was breathable because along with polyester they are synthetic fabrics and nylon for one is meant to repel water which inevitably will trap heat. I think even the quilted if it’s cotton might be better than nylon.
Decisions decisions. If I can get it, satin all the way. Maybe gold for something different.
I’m not saying this to be nice, but your lightning is perfect, you would be crazy to ever sell it. many have posted fit pictures of these $3,000 Japanese brands and more often than not a relatively affordable brand like Lewis Leather or Vanson fits better.
I would also have liked to have satin everywhere. But it did not work.
Now in the Racing Jacket I have tartan on the body and gold satin (is actually more copper) in the sleeves.
In the Corsair I have dogtooths on the body and black satin in the sleeves.
I like both very much.
I’m going to try to go with a shorter fit also, at first I was uncomfortable with it being new to the jacket world but too long it starts looking like a coat and I wear low rise jeans also.
Shoulder width is a big factor with me. It determines the sleeve length. On my 5star I did 49cm shoulders with a 61cm sleeve and they were borderline too long. So I will ask for shoulder width when Rip contacts me.
@MrProper
Do you think that a slightly more narrow shoulder from the picture below might help with the creasing under the pectoral muscle area?
I studied my picture and thought if the seam was more vertical rather than slanted outward if the fit would be better.
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For the sleeves, I can only say that despite the same length and the same shoulder width, they turn out a bit shorter than my other jackets. No idea why that is so. Maybe I measured wrong. Must I repeat the measurement on occasion.
About the wrinkles: I'm not a specialist or tailor (who would probably know right away what the problem is), but it looks like the chest muscle pulls the jacket tight in one place, but the rest of the jacket stays where it is.
I'll have to think about that and see if I can come up with an explanation.
Do you have a V or a Y shape in the jacket from the measurements?
Btw. LL can only V-shape
I’m carrying extra fat right now so it could be the problem with the shape of the 5star, but I usually have a decent V shape but with a lower latissimus dorsi insertion, if that makes any sense. I have a wider waist even at my leanest but I have friends that have a super narrow waist and their back seems to have a Y shape as if their lat muscles spring from under the shoulder blades.
I’m hesitant to give them too tight of measurements around my belly fearing it might be too tight but I definitely don’t want it looking like a bomber and puff out.
I think Lewis will pull it off with their designs because you can see below that even the stock Himel had was several inches too wide but still managed a V shape. I 100% think you were spot on about going a little wider in the waist and hem along with slightly shorter length.
The Himel had 110 cm hem and the 5 star had 100 just barely. I’m assuming Rip will know what to do just by telling him my belt measurement. I’ve yet to see a poor fit Lewis on this board.
Did you say you asked for Satin body and they couldn’t do it?
I’m hesitant to give them too tight of measurements around my belly fearing it might be too tight but I definitely don’t want it looking like a bomber and puff out.
I think Lewis will pull it off with their designs because you can see below that even the stock Himel had was several inches too wide but still managed a V shape. I 100% think you were spot on about going a little wider in the waist and hem along with slightly shorter length.
The Himel had 110 cm hem and the 5 star had 100 just barely. I’m assuming Rip will know what to do just by telling him my belt measurement. I’ve yet to see a poor fit Lewis on this board.
Did you say you asked for Satin body and they couldn’t do it?
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It was someone else not Rip but when I told them I had a chest circumference of 118cm exhaled and 123cm fully inhaled, he told me a 48 (that’s a 53.5cm shoulder and 132 cm chest).
I could never have that size shoulder, they would droop down my arm, and you can see what a 121cm or 48” chest is borderline loose on the Himel, same with the Himel shoulder which were over causing a cornering effect at 48cm or about 19”
Definitely going to ask to speak with Rip before a payment is made.
I could never have that size shoulder, they would droop down my arm, and you can see what a 121cm or 48” chest is borderline loose on the Himel, same with the Himel shoulder which were over causing a cornering effect at 48cm or about 19”
Definitely going to ask to speak with Rip before a payment is made.
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Thank you for the kind words regarding my jacket brother!
Satin is definitely the way to go, aesthetically as well for the fact that it makes slipping in and out of the jacket much easier.
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With my 109 cm chest Rip told me that I'm in between sizes:
"We base our jackets from the chest size, jacket size 42 = 42 inch chest. Looking at your measurement at 109cm = 42.9 inches so pretty much exactly in bewteen sizes, I guess you find this quite often? I notice you opted for a size 42 in the original order, what size is your preference to work from? My only concern is the 42 might be a bit snug but could be wrong, what do you think?"
He was worried a 42 might be a bit snug. I told him I wanted a tshirt only fit for my racing green Cyclone so I chose the 42. In hindsight I think a 40 would have been better as my size 42 jacket came with a 24" ptp, which is a lot wider than any of my other jackets:
The red Lightning above has a 23" ptp. A much better tshirt only fit imo.
Imagine I would have chosen a 44 because Rip thought the 42 would be a bit snug. I could have worn 10 t-shirts underneath lol.
"We base our jackets from the chest size, jacket size 42 = 42 inch chest. Looking at your measurement at 109cm = 42.9 inches so pretty much exactly in bewteen sizes, I guess you find this quite often? I notice you opted for a size 42 in the original order, what size is your preference to work from? My only concern is the 42 might be a bit snug but could be wrong, what do you think?"
He was worried a 42 might be a bit snug. I told him I wanted a tshirt only fit for my racing green Cyclone so I chose the 42. In hindsight I think a 40 would have been better as my size 42 jacket came with a 24" ptp, which is a lot wider than any of my other jackets:
The red Lightning above has a 23" ptp. A much better tshirt only fit imo.
Imagine I would have chosen a 44 because Rip thought the 42 would be a bit snug. I could have worn 10 t-shirts underneath lol.
I know pictures can be deceiving but somehow the 24” looks good and still has an great shoulders and a nice tapered back but I’m with you that red lightning is perfect. How does that compare to your Fields Manhattan p2p?
I’m thinking with a 120cm chest of a 46 but afraid it will be too loose. My chest can get up to 48” at times but I want to keep these expensive jackets forever and I’m not going to be able to maintain that chest size forever. And if a size 42 had a 24” p2p, what if the 46 had a 26”p2p, I’d have to wear another leather jacket underneath
My Himel had exactly 24” p2p with plenty of room
I’m thinking with a 120cm chest of a 46 but afraid it will be too loose. My chest can get up to 48” at times but I want to keep these expensive jackets forever and I’m not going to be able to maintain that chest size forever. And if a size 42 had a 24” p2p, what if the 46 had a 26”p2p, I’d have to wear another leather jacket underneath
My Himel had exactly 24” p2p with plenty of room
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My Field Leathers Idaho has a 22.5" ptp but it has a center back gusset which helps to provide extra moveability. My next FL (we're currently in the process of tweaking the mock-up jacket for it) will have a 23" ptp.
Another approach that might be helpful and which has been used by members here commonly is that of supplying measurements of your favorite fitting jacket rather than those of your body.
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