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Going Atomic With Dalton

Michael R.

Call Me a Cab
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West Tennessee USA
No wonder it bows up on my 7 3/8 LO noggin

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JC225

One of the Regulars
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Michigan
Hey everybody,

I hope all is well and I wanted to ask if anybody knew anything about "Dalton" hats. I came across a Dalton Homburg today and was hoping somebody could shed some light on the brand and any history you might have. The hat was being sold by the grandson of the original owner who said it was from the late 30's early 40's, has been in the box and was in like new condition.

I would appreciate any insight and thanks.

John
 
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19,137
Location
Funkytown, USA
Hey everybody,

I hope all is well and I wanted to ask if anybody knew anything about "Dalton" hats. I came across a Dalton Homburg today and was hoping somebody could shed some light on the brand and any history you might have. The hat was being sold by the grandson of the original owner who said it was from the late 30's early 40's, has been in the box and was in like new condition.

I would appreciate any insight and thanks.

John

I would suggest you go to the beginning of this thread and read up. It contains pretty much everything we know.


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Hey Fruno,

Thank you very much for the information. I really appreciate it.

John

No prob. We have sketchy information on the company, but as the resident Dalton sufficianado, I'm always looking for more.

If you're the one that got that hommie on eBay, you scored a nice hat. @Michael R. Gifted me with a similar one a while back, or I would've joined in the fun.


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JC225

One of the Regulars
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103
Location
Michigan
Hey Fruno,

I actually am the one that purchased that Dalton Homburg from eBay yesterday. I was a little reluctant to get it because I had never heard anything about the company before. After some debating and seeing that the hat had quite a few people watching the listing, I thought it looked like it was in really nice condition and had been protected in the box for quite a while. After reading the posting and seeing your work with the Dalton brand I'm really glad I took the chance and had the winning bid. I'm really excited to get it as this will be only my second hat.
I joined the club when I purchased an incredible Stetson Royal Deluxe St. Regis as my first just a couple of months ago. I love the Homburgs and I think this Dalton will be a beautiful addition to my personal collection.
You have an incredible Dalton collection yourself and I really enjoyed watching you work on each one in the photos that you posted in this thread. I love your Homburg and the Black, Burgundy color combination on it.

I will get some photos up as soon as she arrives.

John
 
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19,137
Location
Funkytown, USA
Hey Fruno,

I actually am the one that purchased that Dalton Homburg from eBay yesterday. I was a little reluctant to get it because I had never heard anything about the company before. After some debating and seeing that the hat had quite a few people watching the listing, I thought it looked like it was in really nice condition and had been protected in the box for quite a while. After reading the posting and seeing your work with the Dalton brand I'm really glad I took the chance and had the winning bid. I'm really excited to get it as this will be only my second hat.
I joined the club when I purchased an incredible Stetson Royal Deluxe St. Regis as my first just a couple of months ago. I love the Homburgs and I think this Dalton will be a beautiful addition to my personal collection.
You have an incredible Dalton collection yourself and I really enjoyed watching you work on each one in the photos that you posted in this thread. I love your Homburg and the Black, Burgundy color combination on it.

I will get some photos up as soon as she arrives.

John

Thank you, and yes, Dalton made very nice hats. The only difference I see between mine and yours is mine is designated "Regal Quality" on the liner tip. Although, you never know, that might be on yours too and is hard to see if it's faded. Also, you got a wind trolley with yours.

The hat you refer to with the burgundy trim, the Waverly? Hat's not a Homburg, it's a regular fedora.


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JC225

One of the Regulars
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103
Location
Michigan
Hey Fruno,

I'm looking at some of the photos and I don't see "Regal Quality " on the liner. It just has the "Worlds Finest Dalton", New York Branding along with the "John Helmer" Portland Oregon men's store label where it was purchased. You will have to educate me on the "Wind Trolley" I'm not really sure about that, what is it?

I think I got the hats mixed up, the hat I'm thinking of is the one you wore on Monday. It says Dalton Homburg or maybe I got the colors mixed up.

John
 
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19,137
Location
Funkytown, USA
Hey Fruno,

I'm looking at some of the photos and I don't see "Regal Quality " on the liner. It just has the "Worlds Finest Dalton", New York Branding along with the "John Helmer" Portland Oregon men's store label where it was purchased. You will have to educate me on the "Wind Trolley" I'm not really sure about that, what is it?

I think I got the hats mixed up, the hat I'm thinking of is the one you wore on Monday. It says Dalton Homburg or maybe I got the colors mixed up.

John

I didn't see it on the liner, either. I was just speculating you might see more in person. The wind trolley is the button string combination which loops around the crown and is used to secure your hat on a windy day. I don't have access to the photos now, but I thought the one you bought had one. I have six Daltons:

Green w/ green ribbon, 2 1/4" bound brim
Blue/grey thin ribbon w/ 2 1/4" bound brim
Blue/grey Open Road clone w/ 2 7/8" bound brim
Blue "Waverly" w/ black ribbon and 2 1/2" brim bound in burgundy
Tan unlined featherweight w/ 2 3/4" raw brim
Black on black homburg.

We can have fun dissecting yours when you get it. [emoji16]


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JC225

One of the Regulars
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Michigan
Owwwwwww, I see it! I had no idea that was called a wind trolley and what it was for! I thought it was just part of the band. I learn some thing new everyday here in the lounge! I appreciate the insight and hope she is as pretty in person as she looked on the listing. I look forward to sharing her with you and I will let you know when she arrives. I received a message from the seller today and he said he would be shipping it priority mail and expect to see it on Monday.

It's going to be a long five days.;)
 
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Owwwwwww, I see it! I had no idea that was called a wind trolley and what it was for! I thought it was just part of the band. I learn some thing new everyday here in the lounge! I appreciate the insight and hope she is as pretty in person as she looked on the listing. I look forward to sharing her with you and I will let you know when she arrives. I received a message from the seller today and he said he would be shipping it priority mail and expect to see it on Monday.

It's going to be a long five days.;)

If my experience is any indicator, it will be worth the wait.


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JC225

One of the Regulars
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103
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Michigan
Hey Fruno,

I'm thinking after a good cleaning and steaming she will be ready to go. I think a nice gutter crown with no pinch on the front and that flatter brim will look like a million bucks.

;)
 

Richard Morgan

One Too Many
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1,642
Location
Central Tesxas
Finished the clean up of my latest Dalton.
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This is the teaser with new ribbon.
When I got it the sweat was shot. The ribbon had been stitched into a loop and the seam joining the loop was coming apart. I thought the felt was pretty clean until I removed the ribbon. The hat didn’t have any significant stains but there was just a lot of filth embedded into it over the last 70 or so years.
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Naptha bath, a new sweatband from @bond and some reddish brown ribbon I bought for another hat and it’s ready to wear.
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JC225

One of the Regulars
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103
Location
Michigan
Hey Richard,

She is beautiful and another great hat for the collection! I wanted to ask, how do you like your Dalton Homburg? I picked one up on Monday and am currently waiting for it to get here.

John
 
Messages
19,137
Location
Funkytown, USA
Finished the clean up of my latest Dalton.
10e23f2cd4cc5867a580baf0464ce70f.jpg

This is the teaser with new ribbon.
When I got it the sweat was shot. The ribbon had been stitched into a loop and the seam joining the loop was coming apart. I thought the felt was pretty clean until I removed the ribbon. The hat didn’t have any significant stains but there was just a lot of filth embedded into it over the last 70 or so years.
55fa612f853c07fe5415273d34a4b1c4.jpg
b7f0bcec045c8f81026023a6a51ae8ba.jpg
495fdbe8df5b966e3e3f08af26898d36.jpg
85ea488dd54d8d1ff3181b4129d5bbc7.jpg

Naptha bath, a new sweatband from @bond and some reddish brown ribbon I bought for another hat and it’s ready to wear.
494e7007cae60d60f3b2958224b70080.jpg
bb5ab99f84968f19f0de502ffd4394b0.jpg
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Looks great, Richard. That ribbon works. And that's a different reorder tag than we've seen before, I think.


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Finished the clean up of my latest Dalton.
10e23f2cd4cc5867a580baf0464ce70f.jpg

This is the teaser with new ribbon.
When I got it the sweat was shot. The ribbon had been stitched into a loop and the seam joining the loop was coming apart. I thought the felt was pretty clean until I removed the ribbon. The hat didn’t have any significant stains but there was just a lot of filth embedded into it over the last 70 or so years.
55fa612f853c07fe5415273d34a4b1c4.jpg
b7f0bcec045c8f81026023a6a51ae8ba.jpg
495fdbe8df5b966e3e3f08af26898d36.jpg
85ea488dd54d8d1ff3181b4129d5bbc7.jpg

Naptha bath, a new sweatband from @bond and some reddish brown ribbon I bought for another hat and it’s ready to wear.
494e7007cae60d60f3b2958224b70080.jpg
bb5ab99f84968f19f0de502ffd4394b0.jpg
78e3c41a996564f3251e0b5b21693f18.jpg



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Thats a beautiful Dalton Richard. Great colors!
 
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Location
Albany Oregon
Finished the clean up of my latest Dalton.
10e23f2cd4cc5867a580baf0464ce70f.jpg

This is the teaser with new ribbon.
When I got it the sweat was shot. The ribbon had been stitched into a loop and the seam joining the loop was coming apart. I thought the felt was pretty clean until I removed the ribbon. The hat didn’t have any significant stains but there was just a lot of filth embedded into it over the last 70 or so years.
55fa612f853c07fe5415273d34a4b1c4.jpg
b7f0bcec045c8f81026023a6a51ae8ba.jpg
495fdbe8df5b966e3e3f08af26898d36.jpg
85ea488dd54d8d1ff3181b4129d5bbc7.jpg

Naptha bath, a new sweatband from @bond and some reddish brown ribbon I bought for another hat and it’s ready to wear.
494e7007cae60d60f3b2958224b70080.jpg
bb5ab99f84968f19f0de502ffd4394b0.jpg
78e3c41a996564f3251e0b5b21693f18.jpg



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Amazing restoration Richard. The liner is to die for. Did you run it through any cleaning process?
 
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Funkytown, USA
Well here she is! She arrived this morning and I am happy to add her to my collection, although she is only my second hat. She is a Dalton Homburg and turned out to be in incredible condition.

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Excellent, and thanks for posting.

Specs? Any tags behind the sweatband?


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Richard Morgan

One Too Many
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Central Tesxas
Hey Richard,

She is beautiful and another great hat for the collection! I wanted to ask, how do you like your Dalton Homburg? I picked one up on Monday and am currently waiting for it to get here.

John
John, I didn't see this until just now. I hope you've gotten the Dalton and are enjoying it. I don't wear homburgs a lot but I really like the Dalton. The black felt is really wonderful and has a color mthat almost look purple at times. It's really nice as I'm sure yours is too.
 

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