My dad just got out of high school - he claimed - we never found a diploma or other evidence that he made it that far. He was a successful small businessman (and professional gambler [probably bookie as well] - he had a full life), but unquestionably had a passive dislike (insecurity?) toward those who had college or further-advanced degrees. "Educated idiots" was one of his favorite terms to refer to those who had gone to college but he thought were stupid. He regular said he was proud of his "degree from the school of hard knocks." To be fair, he never discourage me from going to college and, even, encouraged it as he said it was a necessary thing for many fields "today." But that was the point, to him it was not about becoming educated, expanding your mind, learning new disciplines, being exposed to a wider field of thought, different ideas, etc., it was a grudging acknowledgment that one needed "to get your ticket punched" to get into or advance in certain fields. He made it clear before, during and after I had my degree that he did not see it as any great achievement (I agree with this - getting a degree from a state university hardly put me in some small pool of people) or any reason to be proud (I've never been smug or thought myself special for doing what over ten thousand at just my school alone did each year). He's been dead now over 25 years and with a lot less emotion to it, I understand that he felt insecure to have a son go to college when he didn't - he'd shoot me if I ever said that to or about him, but I think that was true. He - as noted - did want me to go, but it was in a dismissive way about the entire experience - which I get from his perspective. Last thought: my college experience was outstanding as I went college to learn and availed myself of all the resources there to do so. In college, I did expand my mind, gained exposure to disciplines and fields of study I didn't even know existed and learned ways to approach problems and new information that has helped me my entire life. I am grateful to have had that opportunity as it worked for me. Some people went, partied and, IMHO, got very little out of it - their choice as it was their dime. Other people I've known in my life never went to college and educated themselves way beyond my level of formal education and that of many college graduates. College is a resource - it helps some (me), doesn't work for others (40% or more drop out and many more graduate by coasting) and many educate themselves in other ways. And, IMHO, none of this is about intelligence or IQ or whatever one wants to call "it" as, IMHO, intelligence is different from education and is not binary, reducible to a number or easy to define. We personal-freedom-loving libertarians have not one issue with Dr. Martin and his wife and mistress as long as it was all consensual (which it very much sounds like it was). And heck, he created an enduring superhero.