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Let's See Your Watches! The Vintage Watch Thread.

Discussion in 'General Attire & Accoutrements' started by Chamorro, Sep 27, 2003.

  1. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    VOLUPTUOUS VINTAGE VICTORS

    Nothing like a fine pair:

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    I have an affinity for the Swiss brand of "Victor" watches. That outfit produced pocket watches using Swiss ebauche movements beginning in the latter half of the nineteenth century, in due course transitioning to wristwatches. They presumably succombed to the "Quartz Crisis" which mauled the Swiss watch industry in the 1970s. I wish I could find out more about the company.

    The watch on the left is a solid 9K gold dress watch some 33mm in diameter, with a Swiss 17j manual-wind movement. It was acquired from the UK. I would date it 1950s or '60s The seller chose to not replace the original leather band with one in like material of black or brown color. I'll likely do my own replacement some day.

    The nearly mint watch on the right I would date 1970s, that greenish-brown sunburst dial is a dead giveaway. An automatic, it has a 25j Swiss movement which powers a Day indicator in addition to the Date, being a fantastic combination for retirees who have no clue as to what day of the week it is. By the '70s watch case sizes were clearly on the increase, this rectangular stainless steel speciment is 35 mm wide by 40 mm tall. This sporty watch, with a screw-down crown, was acquired from a seller in Italy, which undoubtedly explains why the Day indicator is in Italian ~ thankfully the Italian days of the week are quite similar to those in French so I can figure things out.
     
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  2. VintageEveryday

    VintageEveryday One of the Regulars

    I HAVE also seen multiple watches with the same kind of hands I've got, so unless a good portion of people have replaced their hands with the same kind I have, it seems unusual.
     
  3. VintageEveryday

    VintageEveryday One of the Regulars

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  4. Feel free to chase me with torches and pitchforks since my new watch is not actually vintage, but is made to replicate the original late 1960s model. I just received my new Glycine Airman SST "Pumpkin" (shown with my other non-vintage Glycine Combat Sub). Very happy with my new watch (as I have been with every Glycine I've owned), expect for the band, which will be replaced as soon as the steel replacement arrives. The leather band is very thick and not tapered - it's like wearing a belt on your wrist. While I'd love to get an original Pumpkin, I'm am much happier with the cost of the current model.
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  5. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    Thumbs up for your fine pair of Glycines!

    Based upon my evaluation of the Ningaloo Reef Auto Chrono which I picked up in 2013, I share your praise of Glycine watches ~ excellent Swiss quality at reasonable price levels.

    There are many bargains out there for great Swiss watches as the manufacturers seek to shrink inventory levels in the face of persistent sagging sales affecting the industry generally over the past couple of years.
     
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  6. My first Glycine was an original 1960s Airman - I've been a huge fan ever since.

     
  7. Wasn't one of their slogans "Buy a Ball and time them all!"? I think they also used "Get on the Ball" too.

     
  8. HanauMan

    HanauMan One of the Regulars

    After my Dad died I was given his old Waltham pocket watch. I don't know how old it is but the casing, which is English, is dated mid 40s. That ingot on the fob is modern. It is a nice watch and I remember how Dad would always keep it in his shirt pocket, only taking it out to read the time.

     
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  9. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    I'm a great fan of American Walthams myself, you're doubly fortunate in as much as your Waltham is a family heirloom undoubtedly of great sentimental value. Incidentally if you can access the back of the movement, every Waltham has a serial number on one of the plates. You can enter that serial number & bring up all sorts of info including production date, using the search engine at:

    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/

    Now that you've piqued our interest, perhaps you'd consider sharing the results!
     
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  10. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    Apparently the founder of the Ball Watch company - Webb C. Ball - rivalled P.T. Barnum when it came to showmanship. I think it makes collecting vintage items all that much more fun!
     
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  11. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    I meant to ask whether the English case housing your Waltham, was manufactured by the Dennison company?
     
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  12. HanauMan

    HanauMan One of the Regulars

    Thanks very much for the link.

    The serial number of my watch dates it, apparently, to 1920. The silver case is, indeed, made by the Dennison Watch Case Co. and is actually hallmarked for 1947. It isn't worth much in money terms but it is of high sentimental value to me.
     
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  13. viclip

    viclip A-List Customer

    That's a good watch. Incidentally, American Walthams are often found housed in Dennison cases on your side of the pond. The Dennison chap who formed the Dennison watch case company, was one & the same as the entrepreneur who co-founded the original Waltham watch company back in 1850. Following a number of business setbacks suffered by the early Waltham watch company & his eventual departure from Waltham, Mr. Dennison wound up in England. He became the import agent there for the Walthams exported across the pond from the U.S. & one of his English ventures was the creation of the Dennison watch case company. Lo & behold his cases found their way onto the Waltham movements which he imported & thence distributed in the UK! The Dennison case company was a family affair with the founder's son involved. I think the company lasted until the 1960s.

    Anyways even if your movement isn't housed in its original case, rest assured that the Dennison English case is nevertheless quite correct for an American Waltham. Small world.
     
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  14. HanauMan

    HanauMan One of the Regulars

    Thank you very much for the additional information.

    I don't know where my father acquired the watch, he was from North Carolina. However, he served in West Germany in the army so he may have gotten it there, or maybe when we vacationed in the UK in the 1970s. I don't think it was a family piece.

    I was aware that some watch makers sent out their works without cases, so perhaps this watch was sent to England case less and never had an original case? I note that the case has a serial number as well.

    But then again, maybe the original case was a base metal and the Dennison case a luxury addition?
     
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  15. ⇧ I, too, was curious about the case date and watch date difference. Your explanation seems reasonable. Any other thoughts on how the two could be so far apart in dates?

    And it's a wonderful watch both as a watch and as a connect to your dad.
     
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  16. MrCairo

    MrCairo New in Town

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    Hi guys,

    Here are my (currently only) two vintage pieces. I have a weakness for vintage Longines - especially from their manufacture days - and I have owned quite a few, but these are the two now left in the collection that I do not see moving anytime soon:

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    ^ Longines Ultra-Chron with the cal. 431. Beating at 36.000 A/h, this was Longines' attempt to match quartz accuracy with an automatic. Amazingly, after servicing, it runs just under +2 spd today!



    Then there is this one, the ref 8319 with manual movement 284 (based off the 280, which was used in Railroad grade watches), one of the last great manual calibres Longines made. I had been looking forever for this reference, and a while ago finally found one in immaculate condition. Currently at my watchmaker getting an overhaul (hadn't been opened for years....)


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    Both watches are from the (late) 60s or early 70s, I haven't had Longines date them yet.
     
  17. Alz

    Alz Familiar Face

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    My 60's 24k gold Phigied. It's a 17 rubis automatic with a Milanese loop. This was my father's watch.
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  18. photo2u

    photo2u One of the Regulars

    Love those Longines! Very classy...
     
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  19. Here is a 17 jewel unadjusted self winding Buliva.....movement dated 1953, case dated 1951. Just back from "the doctor", this watch keeps great time........one of my favorites to wear....
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  20. -Ariel-

    -Ariel- New in Town

    The soviet vintage watch from the Brezhnev's era.
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