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Resistol Panda today. Enjoying the beautiful weather!
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TheOldFashioned

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My first Stetson 3X:
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Specs:
2-3/4" Brim (raw edge)
5-3/4" Crown (open)
3/16" Ribbon
4.6oz Weight
Took a bit of chance on this one and am quite pleasantly surprised that I did. A bit of a mystery as there is no liner nor any tags whatsoever. The firm but workable felt makes for a nice alternative to dress weight fedoras. Figured I needed at least one hat in my collection with an "Open Road crease." (Just fooling.) Still needs a little work to shape properly into either a cattleman or maybe a dogbone.

Might not be perfect, but it's mine.
 
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Rmccamey

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As the weather is in Montana, so goes the weather in Dalhart! Seems it is always cold up that far north in the Texas panhandle. Very nice 3X.

My first Stetson 3X:
View attachment 194199 View attachment 194200 View attachment 194201
Specs:
2-3/4" Brim (raw edge)
5-3/4" Crown (open)
3/16" Ribbon
4.6oz Weight
Took a bit of chance on this one and am quite pleasantly surprised that I did. A bit of a mystery as there is no liner nor any tags whatsoever. The firm but workable felt makes for a nice alternative to dress weight fedoras. Figured I needed at least one hat in my collection with an "Open Road crease." (Just fooling.) Still needs a little work to shape properly into either a cattleman or maybe a dogbone.

Might not be perfect, but it's mine.
 
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Well, the search continues then as I'd rather keep the shape as close to original as possible. What block number(s) should be I be looking for on the factory tag?
I don't know the block number on this hat but you can tell just by the amount of taper below the dents that it will never straighten up by opening the dents. And it will never take a narrow center crease required for a Cattleman, a Dogbone is even narrower. This hat is blocked for a real wide brick-like center crease.

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TheOldFashioned

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I don't know the block number on this hat but you can tell just by the amount of taper below the dents that it will never straighten up by opening the dents. And it will never take a narrow center crease required for a Cattleman, a Dogbone is even narrower. This hat is blocked for a real wide brick-like center crease.

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I don't know the number on this hat either as there are no tags. I understand what you are saying regarding the taper. Going forward, when looking at a different hat is there an archetypal block number I should be looking for? I've spent the last hour since your first post searching through multiple threads trying to find an answer to my question but haven't yet.
 
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I don't know the number on this hat either as there are no tags. I understand what you are saying regarding the taper. Going forward, when looking at a different hat is there an archetypal block number I should be looking for? I've spent the last hour since your first post searching through multiple threads trying to find an answer to my question but haven't yet.
Well I guess for starters you can't go wrong with a block #52, but you should be able to tell by just looking at the taper in the blocking..

Rancher 3x6 (grownup Cattleman)
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Dogbone 2-5/8x6
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Both styles require a straight block from the brim break up.

Sorry, gotta go for tonight.
 

J Williams

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I don't know the number on this hat either as there are no tags. I understand what you are saying regarding the taper. Going forward, when looking at a different hat is there an archetypal block number I should be looking for? I've spent the last hour since your first post searching through multiple threads trying to find an answer to my question but haven't yet.

I spent a bit of time searching for hat block information and didn't have a ton of luck. I was mostly trying to find out what block was used for vintage OR's. That being said I didn't ask in any thread. I bet Rick would respond in the Phoenix thread if you asked what blocks to keep an eye out for.
 

TheOldFashioned

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I spent a bit of time searching for hat block information and didn't have a ton of luck. I was mostly trying to find out what block was used for vintage OR's. That being said I didn't ask in any thread. I bet Rick would respond in the Phoenix thread if you asked what blocks to keep an eye out for.

Thank you for checking and for the suggestion.
 

T Jones

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Well I guess for starters you can't go wrong with a block #52, but you should be able to tell by just looking at the taper in the blocking..

Rancher 3x6 (grownup Cattleman)
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Dogbone 2-5/8x6
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Both styles require a straight block from the brim break up.

Sorry, gotta go for tonight.
Very nice looking hat there buddy. I really like that one. The best block that I found which I think makes for the perfect cattleman is the cheap plastic straight sided dome from hat shapers. It has vertical sides with a rounded top which I found makes a nice full crowned cattleman...as shown in this Kevin McAndrew refurb I did. The #52 will still have just a little bit of taper with a flatter top while the straight sided dome has no taper and with a rounded top.

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Very nice looking hat there buddy. I really like that one. The best block that I found which I think makes for the perfect cattleman is the cheap plastic straight sided dome from hat shapers. It has vertical sides with a rounded top which I found makes a nice full crowned cattleman...as shown in this Kevin McAndrew refurb I did. The #52 will still have just a little bit of taper with a flatter top while the straight sided dome has no taper and with a rounded top.

Kevin-Mc-Andrew-Redo-3-A.jpg
As you know the block determines what the hat can be. Any Engineer, Draftsman or Structural Detailer knows that if the angle is <90 degrees at the breakline then it will be off by several degrees of taper at the 6" crown height. If the angle is >90 degrees at the breakline it will be over by several degrees at crown height creating reverse taper. One shouldn't need a block number to determine if the crown will be straight or not.
 

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Very nice looking hat there buddy. I really like that one. The best block that I found which I think makes for the perfect cattleman is the cheap plastic straight sided dome from hat shapers. It has vertical sides with a rounded top which I found makes a nice full crowned cattleman...as shown in this Kevin McAndrew refurb I did. The #52 will still have just a little bit of taper with a flatter top while the straight sided dome has no taper and with a rounded top.

Kevin-Mc-Andrew-Redo-3-A.jpg
Are those domes straight all the way around, and the crown evenly round, or is there some taper on one end, which is also more rounded?
 

Desert dog

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My first Stetson 3X:
View attachment 194199 View attachment 194200 View attachment 194201
Specs:
2-3/4" Brim (raw edge)
5-3/4" Crown (open)
3/16" Ribbon
4.6oz Weight
Took a bit of chance on this one and am quite pleasantly surprised that I did. A bit of a mystery as there is no liner nor any tags whatsoever. The firm but workable felt makes for a nice alternative to dress weight fedoras. Figured I needed at least one hat in my collection with an "Open Road crease." (Just fooling.) Still needs a little work to shape properly into either a cattleman or maybe a dogbone.

Might not be perfect, but it's mine.
I like the thin ribbon! Nice color and dimensions too.

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