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What Jacket Are You Wearing Today?
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What brand is that deck jacket?
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Sorry if this is photo overload, wasn’t sure on the etiquette of posting here versus starting a new thread.
First decent pics of my new Simmons-Bilt semi-custom double rider in Horween Milan horse hide. The leather is just superb - it’s a beautiful rich brown that is soft and pliable in a perfect mid-weight. I’m no expert, but construction and details all seem excellent.
It’s a semi-custom fit, based on a size 38 with my supplied sleeve and body measurements. The shoulders are perfect and the sleeves feel just right (though they look a bit long in these photos).
Now, hard to admit, but my heart did sink a little when I pulled it out of the box Monday and slipped it on. The body just seemed too roomy and boxy. Perhaps as a result, it also looked a bit short (definitely doesn’t help that these jeans sit pretty low). I checked the length against other jackets I have that are good and it is the same, so I’m thinking it just looked short because it was roomy and flaring up. I cinched up the side adjusters and that made a world of difference- the waist is perfectly snug and the chest still has room to easily move around. The cinching gathers a lot of material and may not look as good, but it got me to the fit I was looking for.
Really looking forward to hear what you all think about the fit!
First decent pics of my new Simmons-Bilt semi-custom double rider in Horween Milan horse hide. The leather is just superb - it’s a beautiful rich brown that is soft and pliable in a perfect mid-weight. I’m no expert, but construction and details all seem excellent.
It’s a semi-custom fit, based on a size 38 with my supplied sleeve and body measurements. The shoulders are perfect and the sleeves feel just right (though they look a bit long in these photos).
Now, hard to admit, but my heart did sink a little when I pulled it out of the box Monday and slipped it on. The body just seemed too roomy and boxy. Perhaps as a result, it also looked a bit short (definitely doesn’t help that these jeans sit pretty low). I checked the length against other jackets I have that are good and it is the same, so I’m thinking it just looked short because it was roomy and flaring up. I cinched up the side adjusters and that made a world of difference- the waist is perfectly snug and the chest still has room to easily move around. The cinching gathers a lot of material and may not look as good, but it got me to the fit I was looking for.
Really looking forward to hear what you all think about the fit!
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To my eye it does have too much room in the body. A terrible amount? No...To the average person it probably looks just fine, but for jacket crazy guys here....a bit big. the clinch helps but then as you said you get the flare up of material in the back. I never owned an SB, can you return/exchange a custom/semi custom jacket? If not maybe try to flip/trade it....or keep it. Like I said most people wont have a clue about it. Most people wont appreciate what a beauty it is or see the things we see. I would just say this if it bothers you now, it will probably always bother you. Your first scratch or scuff on a new jacket will kill you, but the more you get and the more you wear it you start appreciate them. All the wind, dirt, scratches, stains make it your own and tell a story. A fit thats off like this wont go away or become your own. In some cases if something is too tight the leather will break in and drape and it can correct it, not so much this.
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I like it! I think the fit is fine..
no way to reduce the excess material in the waist without a major revision to the pattern, which can be done, but is also risky as it can throw the look of the entire jacket off.
no way to reduce the excess material in the waist without a major revision to the pattern, which can be done, but is also risky as it can throw the look of the entire jacket off.
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To be completely honest. The fact that there looks to be some room over in the waist even though you have the cinches done all the way in, tells me that it is too big on you. Chest looks a little bit big as well.
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To me it's just the wideness of the unzipped sleeves that throw it off a bit. I like the fit in body just fine.
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@JustinW - 100% agreeing with @dannyk. While I don't think it looks bad, not by a long shot, it's a... Well, seems roomy. I too prefer my jackets to fit slim or at least short so I personally would prefer if it was a size smaller. On me, I mean. Doesn't look bad on you AT ALL. It's a stunning jacket but more importantly, what are those boots???
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overall length is good. Overall fit reminds me a lot of how my 141 was fitting me, especially with the cinches and that extra material bunching up/not draping on the side panel.
given the leather is broken already, not sure how much drape you can expect. That was my hope with the 141. "yeah, it'll all lay flat and settle eventually". It never really did and like the usual OCD some of us have on these boards, it just really bugged me how the lines on the sides criss crossed, bunched up, etc. etc. Cost about $150 to take in the upper waist like below the p2p and give it more of a taper to the bottom hem. Not suggesting you do that yet. But you do have some alteration options if what you want is a more snug fit. Definitely wear it solid a good several dozen times and see how it changes/settles/etc. Jacket is fine now, more on the relaxed side, but it all depends on what you want/were expecting.
I will say I've exchanged a good 5 or 6 emails with SB, and getting them to give size/measurement info is like asking for blueprints to fort knox. I decided to go elsewhere. I like the cuts and leather options, and overall price point for everything, but I can't just throw $1000 out there with the hopes some sizing guru in Scotland can read my mind. I know the basic measurements of what I want and just want to cross reference them before we start the process to see how close the stock sizes are, but there's a lot of grey area about what I'll get charged for, what's an alteration vs. a pattern redesign, etc. etc.
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Thanks. If I were to size down the shoulders would be too small. Boots are Wesco Boss's (brown domain, double sole and extra heel).
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On the other hand, realistically speaking, leather jacket's supposed to be worn over stuff to keep you warm so... It's actually in a perfectly correct size for @JustinW. Ultimately, you might be happier with this piece than with a smaller one. I dunno, it looks great on you either way. I'd keep it and order a smaller one! 
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Double sole is the key to coolness!
As others have already said ... I think the length of the jacket is good, but it is too wide for my taste. But it's not that it looks bad now. If you feel good, perfect. Otherwise I would have waist and hip tapered.
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One Star.
And that woolen hoodie is as heavy as it looks.
And that woolen hoodie is as heavy as it looks.
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Thanks. I think I will probably end-up going down this route. I'm going to contact S-B to see what they say and are willing to do.
I also did that with my field leathers because the possible tolerance was used upwards and that was too wide for me at the waistband. I don't see why SB shouldn't do that. I wish you success.
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