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[Biff42]

A question about the Indiana Jones jacket, what category would this design fall under? Cossack? Or Civilian flight jacket? Or something else? Thanks.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...w-with-costume-designer-deborah-landis.73974/

""So he sent me the script. The script made absolutely no sense to me because it had lots of ghosts coming out of the Ark of the Covenant, and you're trying to imagine what it’s like on paper, and that's hard, right? So I read the script, and then I came back down to LA and we continued to talk about it. Steven and I sat and watched a couple of movies together. We watched China, which is an Alan Ladd picture from the 1940s; we watched the Lost Treasure of the Incas, starring Charlton Heston as Harry Steele. It was made in 1952, and he [Heston] really wears the costume, more or less, of Indiana Jones. Then I watched The Greatest Show on Earth, in which Charlton Heston wears a brown leather jacket and a brown fedora, pretty much the costume of Indiana Jones. And if that wasn’t enough, Steven used to run Saturday morning adventure serials, where a lot of these guys, because it was just post-war, were wearing flight jackets and brown fedoras."


I believe Deborah Landis also created the Thriller jacket.

 

[Canuck Panda]

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...w-with-costume-designer-deborah-landis.73974/

""So he sent me the script. The script made absolutely no sense to me because it had lots of ghosts coming out of the Ark of the Covenant, and you're trying to imagine what it’s like on paper, and that's hard, right? So I read the script, and then I came back down to LA and we continued to talk about it. Steven and I sat and watched a couple of movies together. We watched China, which is an Alan Ladd picture from the 1940s; we watched the Lost Treasure of the Incas, starring Charlton Heston as Harry Steele. It was made in 1952, and he [Heston] really wears the costume, more or less, of Indiana Jones. Then I watched The Greatest Show on Earth, in which Charlton Heston wears a brown leather jacket and a brown fedora, pretty much the costume of Indiana Jones. And if that wasn’t enough, Steven used to run Saturday morning adventure serials, where a lot of these guys, because it was just post-war, were wearing flight jackets and brown fedoras."


I believe Deborah Landis also created the Thriller jacket.

Deborah Landis is very talent indeed.

I‘m hanging my Indie jacket with my A2 jackets for now.

 

[newtojackets]

Why are British-made leather jackets not more popular? Vintage brands like TT, Mascot etc. are almost rarely mentioned or bought

 

[ABCD]

Why are British-made leather jackets not more popular? Vintage brands like TT, Mascot etc. are almost rarely mentioned or bought

They're popular, just not here on tfl.

Check out this Facebook group

https://facebook.com/groups/283191306533908/

 

[newtojackets]

They're popular, just not here on tfl.

Check out this Facebook group

https://facebook.com/groups/283191306533908/

Thanks for sharing, will join now

 

[jchance]

Can someone explain to me down leather vest? I keep seeing them on JP sites (for example, Rainbow Country). Do people actually wear it? How would you style it? what/when do you wear (with)?

Logistically, how do you wash the down (inside the vest) after each season without ruining the leather?

 

[The Shoe]

When I bought my Schott horsehide Perfecto last year, I promised myself not to go down the wormhole that is leather jackets. But I happened upon a good looking, very reasonably priced Vanson and it has me thinking about breaking that promise.
When I bought the Schott, I tried a size 36, and the guy at the shop said it was a good fit, and it felt alright. But when I tried a size 38, it was clear to all of us that it was a slightly better fit, so that’s what I went for.
Can I feel confident going for a size 38 single riders From Vanson, or is there significant variation between makers?

 

[unhatted]

A 38 isn’t even the same across different* Schott jackets I’m afraid! It’s a good place to start though…

[edit] *it isn’t even the same across the same jacket from different years!

When I bought my Schott horsehide Perfecto last year, I promised myself not to go down the wormhole that is leather jackets. But I happened upon a good looking, very reasonably priced Vanson and it has me thinking about breaking that promise.
When I bought the Schott, I tried a size 36, and the guy at the shop said it was a good fit, and it felt alright. But when I tried a size 38, it was clear to all of us that it was a slightly better fit, so that’s what I went for.
Can I feel confident going for a size 38 single riders From Vanson, or is there significant variation between makers?

 

[JMax]

When I bought my Schott horsehide Perfecto last year, I promised myself not to go down the wormhole that is leather jackets. But I happened upon a good looking, very reasonably priced Vanson and it has me thinking about breaking that promise.
When I bought the Schott, I tried a size 36, and the guy at the shop said it was a good fit, and it felt alright. But when I tried a size 38, it was clear to all of us that it was a slightly better fit, so that’s what I went for.
Can I feel confident going for a size 38 single riders From Vanson, or is there significant variation between makers?

Hopefully one of the Schott aficionados with Vanson experience will report. @Aloysius @Monitor @TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead I’m missing some.

Like was said, lots of variation between and within makers. Whoever can help will ask for jacket details.

Vanson is amazing. One of my favorites. I’m know little of Schott fit. Just enough to be supremely dangerous.

 

[cbez]

Can someone explain to me down leather vest? I keep seeing them on JP sites (for example, Rainbow Country). Do people actually wear it? How would you style it? what/when do you wear (with)?

Logistically, how do you wash the down (inside the vest) after each season without ruining the leather?

Why would you need to wash it??

 

[Aloysius]

Hopefully one of the Schott aficionados with Vanson experience will report. @Aloysius @Monitor @TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead I’m missing some.

Like was said, lots of variation between and within makers. Whoever can help will ask for jacket details.

Vanson is amazing. One of my favorites. I’m know little of Schott fit. Just enough to be supremely dangerous.

Can't speak to either brand because the guy is in Japan.

I've seen Japan-market Schotts in size "38" that are a tight fit on a skinny short guy with a 34 chest. No idea if Vanson Japan gets to determine its own size labeling too.

 

[JMax]

Can't speak to either brand because the guy is in Japan.

I've seen Japan-market Schotts in size "38" that are a tight fit on a skinny short guy with a 34 chest. No idea if Vanson Japan gets to determine its own size labeling too.

Ah yes. Good point.

 

[jchance]

Why would you need to wash it??

Down (feathers) gets soaked by sweat over time and loses its insulating property. It becomes sticky and gross. It requires washing once every season/every few seasons (if pushing it).

I haven’t owned a leather down vest so idk if leather would absorb all the sweat and prevent the sweat to get into the down…

 

[cbez]

I can't imagine your sweat would get thru finished leather and soak the lining unless you went full KG

as far as the why, down vests are trendy in jp as is horsehide, so it's a way to make it an 'artisanal' 'luxury' vest.

 

[The Shoe]

A 38 isn’t even the same across different* Schott jackets I’m afraid! It’s a good place to start though…

[edit] *it isn’t even the same across the same jacket from different years!

Hopefully one of the Schott aficionados with Vanson experience will report. @Aloysius @Monitor @TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead I’m missing some.

Like was said, lots of variation between and within makers. Whoever can help will ask for jacket details.

Vanson is amazing. One of my favorites. I’m know little of Schott fit. Just enough to be supremely dangerous.

Can't speak to either brand because the guy is in Japan.

I've seen Japan-market Schotts in size "38" that are a tight fit on a skinny short guy with a 34 chest. No idea if Vanson Japan gets to determine its own size labeling too.

Thanks, guys.
Clearly, I need to get measurements from the seller, which would always be a sensible thing to do anyway. I appreciate your input.

Gary

 

[jchance]

I can't imagine your sweat would get thru finished leather and soak the lining unless you went full KG

as far as the why, down vests are trendy in jp as is horsehide, so it's a way to make it an 'artisanal' 'luxury' vest.
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Do you have pics of outfit featuring down leather vest? I can’t imagine any good style with one on…

 

[handymike]

I prefer the 70s Tepco vests. They have corduroy instead of leather, therefore washable.

 

[Fonzie]

Down (feathers) gets soaked by sweat over time and loses its insulating property. It becomes sticky and gross. It requires washing once every season/every few seasons (if pushing it).

I’m sorry but I fail to see how this can happen.
Assuming you’re not wearing the down vest in direct contact with your skin and exercise with it (which would be super weird by the way), how’s the sweat going to soak through all the clothing layers you’d normally wear under it like t-shirt, shirt or sweater, and then also soak the lining and make it all the way to substantially soak the feathers to the point they get sticky and clump up?

This makes little sense to me and it makes more sense that the moisture absorbed by the down would come from environmental exposure, rather that your own body.
But by all means, wash it as needed.


Edit: typo.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Can someone explain to me down leather vest? I keep seeing them on JP sites (for example, Rainbow Country). Do people actually wear it? How would you style it? what/when do you wear (with)?

Logistically, how do you wash the down (inside the vest) after each season without ruining the leather?

No wash, just flip inside out and let the sun do its thing. I have washed my Canada Goose one, but if not fully dried the feathers will have a bad smell. So just leave it inside out in the sun is good enough.

The Rainbow Country one is really high quality stuff. They are heavily discounted on the used market too, it's totally worth it.

Not really for style, but practical warmth.

 

[jchance]

I’m sorry but I fail to see how this can happen.
Assuming you’re not wearing the down vest in direct contact with your skin and exercise with it (which would be super weird by the way), how’s the sweat going to soak through all the clothing layers you’d normally wear under it like t-shirt, shirt or sweater, and then also soak the lining and make it all the way to substantially soak the feathers to the point they get sticky and clump up?

This makes little sense to me and it makes more sense that the moisture absorbed by the down would come from environmental exposure, rather that your own body.
But by all means, wash it as needed.


Edit: typo.

Sweat eventually absorbs through your clothes to your down vests. I’ve owned three down vests over the last 20 years and had to wash each of them once, and I thought I didn’t sweat. After about 10 years or so, each down vest looked like there were sweat stains and the down inside deflated a lot.