Kelso or Himel Wait Times, Lost Worlds Tanning

Marc mndt · Nov 21, 2020

Berto said:
private message is through "conversations", right?

Yes. The envelope

dlite90 · Nov 21, 2020

Hey bros thanks for all the replies. I’ll respond more specifically to them after I’ve had my coffee.

But I was specifically looking for veg-tanned because I read the environmental consequences of chromium dye are pretty nasty. I know that American producers like Taylor Stitch and Horween are under EPA regs to manage the wastewater from their factories but I don’t know much about their process for doing so.
Lately I’ve been getting interested in sustainable materials and for all my cloth stuff I want to start buying hemp/cotton blend and wool, and just move off 100% cotton (it’s honestly not a great material anyway, hemp/cotton blend is lighter and more durable). I’m also not interested in polyester even if recycled because it sends microparticles into our water supplies.
https://www.intelligentliving.co/polyester-clothes-microplastic-fibers/

I’m not trying to preach to anyone (or even dismiss the quality of chrome-tanned leather), just answering the question why I’m looking for veg-tanned and why I got into higher-end jackets. It’s a small change I can make and I like to vote with my wallet.

If anyone knows more about how American facilities manage their chrome dye waste I’d love to hear it. I emailed Taylor Stitch (a company that promotes themselves as environmentally-friendly from top to bottom) and customer service got back to me saying they’d “check on it”. Lol.

Berto · Nov 21, 2020

Marc mndt said:
Yes. The envelope View attachment 282295

Thanks Marc.

Love all your jackets, mainly Thedi jackets.

handymike · Nov 21, 2020

Look into Shinki!

red devil · Nov 21, 2020

dlite90 said:
Hey bros thanks for all the replies. I’ll respond more specifically to them after I’ve had my coffee.

But I was specifically looking for veg-tanned because I read the environmental consequences of chromium dye are pretty nasty. I know that American producers like Taylor Stitch and Horween are under EPA regs to manage the wastewater from their factories but I don’t know much about their process for doing so.
Lately I’ve been getting interested in sustainable materials and for all my cloth stuff I want to start buying hemp/cotton blend and wool, and just move off 100% cotton (it’s honestly not a great material anyway, hemp/cotton blend is lighter and more durable). I’m also not interested in polyester even if recycled because it sends microparticles into our water supplies.
https://www.intelligentliving.co/polyester-clothes-microplastic-fibers/

I’m not trying to preach to anyone (or even dismiss the quality of chrome-tanned leather), just answering the question why I’m looking for veg-tanned and why I got into higher-end jackets. It’s a small change I can make and I like to vote with my wallet.

If anyone knows more about how American facilities manage their chrome dye waste I’d love to hear it. I emailed Taylor Stitch (a company that promotes themselves as environmentally-friendly from top to bottom) and customer service got back to me saying they’d “check on it”. Lol.

Sure, we all have our motivations. If you are looking into environmental factors, I would suspect looking into traditional bark tanning would be the best option, but very prohibitive and complicated.

If you want something less prohibitive, Blattwerk might just be the ticket https://heller-leder.com/blattwerk-133

Only Simmons Bilt carries this leather as far as I am aware. You could always buy the hide and send it to your maker of choice, most would be willing to work with leather you provide.

Otherwise classic veg tanned leather, although I haven't done any research to figure out which ones are more environmentally friendly.

Berto · Nov 21, 2020

red devil said:
Sure, we all have our motivations. If you are looking into environmental factors, I would suspect looking into traditional bark tanning would be the best option, but very prohibitive and complicated.

If you want something less prohibitive, Blattwerk might just be the ticket https://heller-leder.com/blattwerk-133

Only Simmons Bilt carries this leather as far as I am aware. You could always buy the hide and send it to your maker of choice, most would be willing to work with leather you provide.

Otherwise classic veg tanned leather, although I haven't done any research to figure out which ones are more environmentally friendly.

What about Blattwerk quality?. I know a guy that is ordering one of these from SB.

MrProper · Nov 21, 2020

Berto said:
private message is through "conversations", right?

it will be best to contact him via instagram. that is the fastest. or the email on his website.

Berto · Nov 21, 2020

MrProper said:
it will be best to contact him via instagram. that is the fastest. or the email on his website.

Thanks Mrproper.

First time I knew about FL was because your Route 66 shinki leather jacket lol

Marc mndt · Nov 21, 2020

Berto said:
Thanks Marc.

Love all your jackets, mainly Thedi jackets.

Greg just told me that his email has been down for a few weeks. His web designer is working on solving the problem. He's very responsive through his social channels. You shouldn't have any problems reaching out to him there.

Berto · Nov 21, 2020

Marc mndt said:
Greg just told me that his email has been down for a few weeks. His web designer is working on solving the problem. He's very responsive through his social channels. You shouldn't have any problems reaching out to him there.

Thanks Marc. Thumbs up.

We are already in contact.

red devil · Nov 21, 2020

Berto said:
What about Blattwerk quality?. I know a guy that is ordering one of these from SB.

I don't own anything made of it yet, so I can't tell you how it feels in use. But I was interested in getting something made of it, haven't done so yet because I have too many ongoing orders lol

Berto · Nov 21, 2020

red devil said:
I don't own anything made of it yet, so I can't tell you how it feels in use. But I was interested in getting something made of it, haven't done so yet because I have too many ongoing orders lol

Let's hope I can upload some pics of A-1 Blattwerk Mahogany

This one

red devil · Nov 21, 2020

Thanks for sharing!

dlite90 · Nov 22, 2020

This has been a really interesting thread, thanks especially for the tips on Field Leather and Blattwerk.

handymike said:
Look into Shinki!

I just ordered a Rainbow Country Single Rider I found randomly on EBay. Dude said he's shipping it Monday, can't wait til it gets in. I don't particularly care if the leather's Shinki or Italian, I just HAVE to have that little band and button on the collar. Feel like it adds a degree of formality, while also reminding me of a moto jacket. Otherwise I could've bought an Aero or Eastman and saved time and money. Also, idk if it's just the camera flash, but the Eastman Walnut jackets seem really "glossy" in every picture. I like a flat finish.

Btw I messaged Greg at Field Leathers (I had to create an IG lol) and he seemed like a nice dude. If this jacket doesn't work out or I want a bespoke I'll be ordering from him. 1000GBP seems damn reasonable for a bespoke Shinki jacket.
He says turnaround atm is 10-12 weeks.

Marc mndt · Nov 22, 2020

dlite90 said:
Also, idk if it's just the camera flash, but the Eastman Walnut jackets seem really "glossy" in every picture. I like a flat finish.

I'd say it's the camera flash. The californian isn't glossy in real life.

handymike · Nov 23, 2020

The Rainbow Country is a wonderful jacket! I hope it works out.

Logician · Nov 23, 2020

My BK HH Test (3 years old, never worn) is somewhat grainy compared to my 2 older HH Suburban (12-15 years old). LW HH used to be kind of plastic-like, not any more. Stuart is now proudly advertising on his website: "American Horsehide Grain -- Undoctored, Natural!" Personally, I like grainy leather, but not too much!

Chainy75 · Mar 18, 2022

Hey logician. Do you still have the green suburban. Would you be interested in selling it?

Will Zach · Mar 18, 2022

Chainy75 said:
Hey logician. Do you still have the green suburban. Would you be interested in selling it?

Best to tag him like that: @Logician or send him a private mail.

Chainy75 · Mar 18, 2022

Will Zach said:
Best to tag him like that: @Logician or send him a private mail.

Thanks. I wondered how you done that lol.
I don't think he's accepting PM's or I'm doing something wrong.

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