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Yeah I caught the sliders, but still wasnt impressed. ( Oh hey, I didnt see the corridor pop up on the 4th screen...)

AS for the movie...at least theyre not rushing it.
I bet this will make some intrusive fans crazy & there will be some spoilers leaked.
 

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Costume hints

Deckard called asking if there was any news leak on the new uniforms.
Heres one tidbit from the actress playing young Uhura:
The famed Star Trek miniskirts proved to be an attention-grabber for Saldana. "All I'm going to say is that for some reason every man on set noticed when I was working. It was like 'God, I don't know. Was it my line? My deliverance? Oh. Okay.' That's all I'm going to say."
 

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Here is a poster preview of Abram's cast teaser

Kirk, Spock, Uhura & Romulan Gen. Nero

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Uuuuggghhhhh.....that new Enterprise is on par with the McQuarryprise redesign from the 1970's for sheer stupidity.

RE: The Uniforms

Will William Ware Theiss get screen credit in the new movie for designing the originals?

Somehow, I doubt it.
 

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I keep looking at the new "old" Enterprise trying to figure out the disdain for it. But I can't. It maintains the spirit of the old model, but yet looks updated. It looks like a ship modern viewers would accept. I know there are certain die hard ST fans that will never accept it, but then they won't like the movie no matter what. Somethings just don't transcend I guess, sort of like asking a Yankees fan to be happy for the Mets; it just won't happen most of the time (or a White Sox fan for the Cubs etc). ;)
 

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jake431 said:
I keep looking at the new "old" Enterprise trying to figure out the disdain for it. But I can't. It maintains the spirit of the old model, but yet looks updated. It looks like a ship modern viewers would accept. I know there are certain die hard ST fans that will never accept it, but then they won't like the movie no matter what. Somethings just don't transcend I guess, sort of like asking a Yankees fan to be happy for the Mets; it just won't happen most of the time (or a White Sox fan for the Cubs etc). ;)

I absolutely loved the Enterprise redesign for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. If they had gone in that direction, or the in the direction of Phase II, I would be much happier.
 

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J. M. Stovall said:
The thing is those are all different ships, refitted, updated and whatnot. This is supposed the be the first one so why not look like the first one. Maybe this is just an alternate timeline where things looked "cooler".;)

Agreed. I was just pointing out that change, if done right, is acceptable.

But the bigger issue, in my opinion, will be the quality (or lack thereof) of the screenplay. Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci wrote the screenplay for Transformers and for the new Trek film. Trek, IMO, should not be relegated to writers of an action movie franchise.

J.J. Abrams no doubt wanted to be loyal to these two. But why not get a prominent Hugo/Nebula award winning SF writer to write a story, and have Kurtzman-Orci write the screenplay from said story?
 

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J. M. Stovall said:
The way I look at it, it's kind of like making a period 30's movie but saying "you know, those car designs are ok, but lets go ahead and update them so the general public will like them better".


I understand you point, but they aren't making a science fiction movie that took place in the 1960's. As much as Rodenbery tried to be futuristic, quite a lot of the show doesn't appear timeless, as much as it does dated.

Still if you don't like the aesthetics of the new "old" enterprise, I can understand that. I just happen to think it's cool, that's all.

[huh]

-Jake
 

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I am surprised no one has pointed out the incorrectness in timeline between the young Enterprise crew and the Romulan.

As for the new ship design, aesthetically it is close to the original. It could have been worst. I am sure Matt Jefferies would be pleased?
 

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RIOT said:
I am surprised no one has pointed out the incorrectness in timeline between the young Enterprise crew and the Romulan.

As for the new ship design, aesthetically it is close to the original. It could have been worst. I am sure Matt Jefferies would be pleased?


I thought there was a war between the Romulans and Federation that occurred some time before the original series (I'm scratching long unscratched brain cells that used to remember this stuff from the time line book I had as a teenager).
 

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jake431 said:
I keep looking at the new "old" Enterprise trying to figure out the disdain for it. But I can't. It maintains the spirit of the old model, but yet looks updated.

Because this is supposed to be a prequel. If they had ressurected Phase II and this was supposed to be what she looked like between the 5-year mission and the Movie, maybe. The only thing that can redeem this thing for me is if, in the final scene, they show her being refitted to how she really looks.

I know there are certain die hard ST fans that will never accept it, but then they won't like the movie no matter what.

What most die-hard fans want is for the francise to be shown a little respect is all. It seems a bit like manhandling to me, but that's just my opinion.

As much as Rodenbery tried to be futuristic, quite a lot of the show doesn't appear timeless, as much as it does dated.

One thing that comes up is the size of the communicators in the Original Series. Something I think people forget is that those things could call people in outer space! With no roaming charges and no worrying about the nearest cell tower lol And besides, Star Trek is often less about the flashy effects and more about the story and the characters.
 

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Nick D said:
Because this is supposed to be a prequel. If they had ressurected Phase II and this was supposed to be what she looked like between the 5-year mission and the Movie, maybe. The only thing that can redeem this thing for me is if, in the final scene, they show her being refitted to how she really looks.



What most die-hard fans want is for the francise to be shown a little respect is all. It seems a bit like manhandling to me, but that's just my opinion.



One thing that comes up is the size of the communicators in the Original Series. Something I think people forget is that those things could call people in outer space! With no roaming charges and no worrying about the nearest cell tower lol And besides, Star Trek is often less about the flashy effects and more about the story and the characters.

I look at this "prequel" in the same way as Casino Royale was - more of a reboot than a true prequel. So, with that perspective in mind, I am still excited about this movie.
 

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RIOT, I have no doubt art direction and production design on the new film will be better than on the Enterprise television show....again, the bigger question is I hear people my age (college students) talking about movies with awesome special effects. While I myself am a fan of great FX (2001: A Space Odyssey for example), it is irrevelant without a good story. The Phantom Menace had better FX than, say, Forbidden Planet, but the better FX don't make it a better film.
 

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