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    Black Tie waist covering?

    This is why you don't skip the waist covering with black tie: That exposed patch of shirt navel is essentially the formal equivalent of plumber's crack.
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    Formal Wear Primer

    It's cool to see an actual example of this after having only seen depictions in vintage ads like this one from 1934:
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    Formal Wear Primer

    Ah that brings back memories. In my case my quest for a proper tuxedo for my Queen Mary 2 crossing ended up leading to seven years of research and a 95-page web site devoted to the topic!
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    Formal Wear Primer

    That is so going in The Black Tie Guide Hall of Shame.
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    Wedge vs. bell shirt bosoms

    Thanks Charlie.
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    Name That Suiting

    Hi guys, I'm hoping to take advantage of my fellow Loungers' incredible wealth of knowledge once more to help me with my ongoing formalwear research. This time I've got one of Esquire's "fabric picture" pictorials where they assemble an illustration using actual swatches of fabric. The issue...
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    Wedge vs. bell shirt bosoms

    I came across a 1931 ad that referred to formal shirts available "in regular wedge and bell bosoms." Has anyone ever come across these descriptions of bosom shapes before? Here's the illustrations that accompany the ad, if they're any help:
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    Formal Wear Primer

    Absolutely. The current thread makes for a very impractical resource.
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    Formal Wear Primer

    I would still qualify these as being more formal than patent-leather lace-ups because of their lack of clutter and exposed working parts.
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    Esquire's Correct Dress Chart, 1953

    I often think the same thing. I envision it as something like: dressy casual business casual everyday casual couldn't care less
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    Esquire's Correct Dress Chart, 1953

    This pullout from the October 1953 issue was the last "correct dress chart" that Esquire issued. (Sigh.) I photographed this at a library then cleaned up the photo to offset the low light conditions. Click for a full-size version. Enjoy!
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    Formal Wear Primer

    It was interesting to see how popular shawl collars were at the Oscars as they've been relatively rare on the red carpet as of late. I've done a fairly extensive review of the Oscar tuxedos on my blog for those who are interested.
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    Formal Wear Primer

    Bruno, for some reason I can't post attachments either but I have uploaded the photo you sent me via The Black Tie Guide. Loungers, any idea what this odd exterior button is for?
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    German magazine scans 1930s

    Beautiful! Would you mind translating the text for these two images?
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    Formal Wear Primer

    The guy is short - deal with it. If tradition doesn't specifically call for a top hat then avoid it because it will look comical. Trying to make him taller by adding a 12" hat is pretty much the same as putting him in 12" patent leather platform shoes. Instead, give him a commanding...
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    Evening dress question

    ditto. If you're not fine with this then be prepared to feel awkward and self conscious and possibly even pretentious
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    Formal Wear Primer

    Thanks for the info. How did you find this out?
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    Formal Wear Primer

    check out http://www.blacktieguide.com/Vintage/Vintage_Shirts.htm
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    Formal Wear Primer

    I'm not sure what he wore to that event but he wasn't dressed any better for the 2006 Gridiron dinner or the 2008 Alfred Smith Dinner 2006 (note the lack of waistcoat) 2008 (Senator McCain wore a proper wing collar to this event)
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    Formal Wear Primer

    No, they are American PRESIDENTS and they both have worn white tie at least twice before (to Gridiron Club Dinners and Alfred Smith Dinners). If the average guys on this forum can figure out the rules to proper evening dress then there is no excuse for the most powerful men in the free world...

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