Any Info on This Odd Knox Low Topper?

[alanfgag]

Looks like silk. Beyond that I'm not sure. There has been discussion here on similar hats before...

 

[HatsEnough]

Silk? It is hairy, though. Definite long hair. I can actually grab the hair and pull it away from the knap (not pulling it out of the hat, tho, lol) I assumed it was beaver. I am thoroughly unfamiliar with toppers and their construction, though.

 

[mayserwegener]

It's silk as in silk Toppers. I wonder if its a men's hat?

 

[Joshbru3]

That type of sweatband is very characteristic in Equestrian hats. I know that there has been a few examples of this type of hat posted here on the lounge, I just can't find the threads where there was some talk about them. I believe they are a form of riding hat even though they are not stiff. Possibly not so much riding but presentation? The material is silk, not beaver and I believe the hat dates to around the turn of the century. Maybe not 1890's, but certainly pre-1920.

Heres a picture of my 1930's Stetson Equestrian Derby with the same kind of fabric band with a tightening string.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

We've seen these before. Don't know how old yours is, but a similar, lower-crowned (newer?) version was worn by female Yeomen in the U.S. Navy during World War I. Compare its ribbon to yours.


Photo here: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h78000/h78898.jpg

 

[HatsEnough]

Cool info thus far. Thanks, guys.

It could very well be a women's hat. I just thought it was cool looking.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Another photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ctor_Blue_inspects_Yeomen(F)_Wash_DC_1918.jpg

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Look familiar?

 

[HatsEnough]

Very... tho maybe someone added all the three ribbons later? Or perhaps it was a style for ladies in the general public for a short time in the early 1900s?

It is an interesting piece, anyway. Goes well with some of my more offbeat hats.

 

[Lefty]

Tango Yankee had one - I believe it's a Dobbs. It was determined (or at least thought) to be a woman's hat, so he gave it to his wife.

Dobbs-Unusual-style-from-1918

 

[HatsEnough]

His is even cooler than mine! I like the colors on it.

 

[Tango Yankee]

But that's a heck of a ribbon/bow treatment on yours, HE!

Lefty, thanks for posting the link to that old thread. Sadly, the phone number I found for the store my (wife's) hat came from is not in service. I've found two addresses for it with the one phone number. I'm not sure when they went out of business. I may try sending a note to the address in hopes it gets forwarded to the former owner.

Regards,
Tom

 

[HatsEnough]

The three ribbons is what made me feel it might be a women's hat. Anyway, I think it is a really cool, interesting hat. I'll hang onto it for a while.

 

[adouglasmhor]

I have a similar hat by Huckel in Rabbit (and its hairy). But mine has a slightly more rounded crown and is a Hasidic hat.

 

[Sam Craig]

Silk and definitely a woman's hat

 

[Raymond André]

The answer to the original question above, as to what type of hat this is:
It is a Spanish hat known as a 'Sombrero Cordobés', and is traditionally made in Córdoba Spain. It is favored by male flamenco dancers, for example.

More information here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombrero_cordobés

 

[Alexander Sommerset]

Looking through the past posts, it seems this was identified as a women's hat from around 1900 to 1920 and worn for business settings.

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/any-info-on-this-odd-knox-low-topper.57793/

 

[Brad Bowers]

These were ladies' hats, referred to in retail advertisements and industry literature as Silk Sailors. They first seemed to appear in 1892, but their most popular years, judging from the number of newspaper advertisements, were 1914 to 1921.

This ad is from 1910.

Brad
~The Hatted Professor

 

[Brad Bowers]

Reposted here for future searches:

These were ladies' hats, referred to in retail advertisements and industry literature as Silk Sailors. They first seemed to appear in 1892, but their most popular years, judging from the number of newspaper advertisements, were 1914 to 1921.

This ad is from 1910.

Brad
~The Hatted Professor