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Brim Curls: Kettles, Pencill, etc.

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Well, I have little knowledge of this myself, but maybe if we make enough questionable assertions here, someone will be annoyed enough to offer some specifics.
My Beaver homburg, by the way, has a much more pronounced Western curl. With that as my basis for comparison, I would have said the Miller Winston is more of a European style.

lol Nothing gets a good answer like calling upon the righteous fury of others :D!

Oh, and do you have a picture somewhere of the Beaver homburg (Beaver Brand or made of beaver?)? It sounds pretty interesting!

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Varied USA Homburg brims

Thank you, sir! These close-up pics of the brim are nice :).
 
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This mid to late 1960s Lembert (Augsburg, Germany) Homburg still had very nice Bowler like brim work associated with later Homburgs.

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This mid to late 1960s Lembert (Augsburg, Germany) Homburg still had very nice Bowler like brim work associated with later Homburgs.
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That is one handsome homburg! I like the wide, wide binding on the clean curl, too :).

I've a question, now that I've seen a few examples of homburgs: is the binding usually put in the hat after the brim has been curled? I can't tell if the binding is all the way around or only on the outside edge of the curl, but it seems to me like it would be a difficult and time consuming process.
 

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I always like the brim treatment on this hat.

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Thanks for bumping my horrible doodle lol. It looks eerily similar in detail (not in accuracy ;))...

I have to agree. I love these curled brims, and I especially like the effect they achieve on wider brims, like the Robert Duvall one I posted earlier, and of course the one you just posted. What movie is that from, by the way?
 

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Those are amazing, MW! Simply amazing! I especially like the greyish-taupe one.

Thanks for posting these. They helped answer my earlier question :).
 
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This is late 1950s Stetson made by Mayser.

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Wegener (Germany) probably mid 1950s maybe earlier.

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Wegener probably 1980s or 1990s. Not bad for a modern one.

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Wegener from the early 1960s. This one can be snapped so not really later Homburg like.

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This C. W. N. (Germany) is probably early 1900s. In the US it would be considered a Fedora - Alpine in that time period. The brim is soft but curled with a shorter tapered crown.

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Thanks for bumping my horrible doodle lol. It looks eerily similar in detail (not in accuracy ;))...

I have to agree. I love these curled brims, and I especially like the effect they achieve on wider brims, like the Robert Duvall one I posted earlier, and of course the one you just posted. What movie is that from, by the way?

"Australia" and all the hats in the film were Akubras I believe.
 

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It was on the tip of my tongue...thank you, sir! I may have to get around to seeing that movie.

Akubra should make more hats like that (of course with less beads ;)).

Yes, I agree about the beads. I wonder if they were implying this treatment might have been added or personalized by the hat owners themselves? Here's a better view. I like the overall shape, brim curl, and of course the fact it is an Akubra, my favorite affordable, production hat.

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Yes, I agree about the beads. I wonder if they were implying this treatment might have been added or personalized by the hat owners themselves? Here's a better view. I like the overall shape, brim curl, and of course the fact it is an Akubra, my favorite affordable, production hat.


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bear with me, trying out the "multi-reply"

Contrasting edge binding on a curled brim, great color and bow work. This is a winner, JoshBru :)! So are the other two, as well!

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I have bunch but this late 19th very early 20th Century G. M. Melone is standout.

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That is the most incredible & tightest brim curl I've ever seen! Wow!

For my Homburg I will submit this dark blue Hückel Superior.



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is that an unbound brim? That is pretty uncommon. That's the first one I've seen

The Cavanagh with thin ribbon binding for comparison to that Winston.
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that's a very thin binding on the cavanagh. did they ever make a homberg / derby / bowler with a cavanagh edge?

This is late 1950s Stetson made by Mayser.


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That is a beautiful hat! I love the side dents on the homburg.
 

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After looking at all these, I guess I prefer the 'western' style of homburg brim curl, if that means a slightly dipping brim front and rear. I also like side dents closer to the front of the hat, like a fedora pinch, just not tight. Of all the homburgs Ive seen so far, the shape of the Miller 1376 appeals to me the most.

Personally, I dont have a preference for modern or vintage hats. I just have to like the particular hat.
 
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is that an unbound brim? That is pretty uncommon. That's the first one I've seen

Yes no binding. The original Homburgs (late 19th Century) didn't have binding but this one is from the 1930s so not as common for that time period. The brim has a typical later day curl but not stiff or Bowler like.
 

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