Dating Vintage Stetsons by size tag

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  1. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    c. 1920s, maybe earlier as well - Sticker on the sweatband
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  2. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    1930s for sure. Maybe late '20s as well.

    Embossed gold foil over cardstock
    Serif numbers

    The top and bottom loop of the "8" are the same size.

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    from a hat dating to 1933-1935

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    Different design- not sure if it's the same foil- but it has a serif font. The angle of the 1 is different.

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    Bowler c.1935
     
  3. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    '30s- c.1942
    Gold over cardstock. Non-embossed.
    Note the numbers are sans serif and the one has an angled top.

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    Hat c.1941

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    Hat c.1935-37

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  4. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    c.1942-late '50s/early1960s (depending on the hat). There do seem to be exceptions to this rule, with later appearing hats showing up with this tag from time to time.
    Black lettering on manila cardstock.

    Early '40s
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    C. 1950
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    Post 1952 hat. Note the lack of "Stetson"
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    Early 1950s
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    Mid-late '50s hat.
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    '50s - Different font than the other one.
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    late '50s (color liner crest)
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  5. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Canadian gold variant. '40s/'50s

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  6. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Transitional. Same printing as on the square tags, on the earlier shape. Hat probably dates to the '60s. Liner Shot.
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    Square tags started showing up in the '60s
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    1965
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    '70s?
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    '80s
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  7. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Hat from the late 1990s

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  8. Ande1964

    Ande1964 Practically Family

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    Fantastic

    Thanks so much for doing this!

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  9. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

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  10. mayserwegener

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    Very informative / interesting post! :eusa_clap

    I have Mayser made Stetson that has a time stamp of 12/27/58 on the inside of the sweatband. I will take a photo to see how the size tag compares. I know it looks very similar to the circular ones you posted but has a cm size.
     
  11. Feraud

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    Can we assume there could be decade crossover on tagging?

    I *think* I have a Stetson with a round size tag stuck on the sweatband that is considered to be a middle to late 30s. Could the hat be earlier or an older tag used on this one?
     
  12. mayserwegener

    mayserwegener

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    Stetson - Mayser 12/27/58

    Stetson - Mayser 3X Beaver Quality Homburg (sweat band has a December 27, 1958 stamp).

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  13. carouselvic

    carouselvic I'll Lock Up

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    Got Photos? Sweatband seam, liner?
     
  14. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Probably some kind of overlap.

    Here's one, unfortunately no better pic, which doesn't seem to match any of the others. Looks like there's a ring within the tag itself, and that the Stetson text is at the bottom instead of at the top.

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  15. Salty O'Rourke

    Salty O'Rourke Practically Family

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    How about this one?

    I haven't seen an example like this - it's from a Whippet.

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  16. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Long oval tags generally had that color scheme.
     
  17. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Another example of the rare embossed foil serif-font round size tag.
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  18. CRH

    CRH Call Me a Cab

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    Stetson Medalist Cuenca

    I'm thinking '40s on this Stetson Panama. There appears to be the gold foil on the card stock.

    Maybe it just landed on a later hat?

    What do you all think?

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  19. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Definitely '40s- going by the sweatband marking having the stars in the left corner. It's hard to tell from the pictures, but if there's gold on the tag, c. 1942 or earlier. I'd say closer to '42.
     
  20. AXL DEMOCRACY

    AXL DEMOCRACY One of the Regulars

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    What size would a long oval 1/8 be?

    Those are some really cool photos though. Very interesting to see all the changes over the years.
     

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