I got these from a rich girl here in San Diego she got them as gifts put them in the. Closet 20 years ago and here they are there. Both 36 like 300 for both or trade for a large cafe racer" so if you have a 36 girlfriend here you go there 35 years old but perfect I felt it was my job to rescue and get them the road time they deserve.shrimp8@cox.net