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Duck

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I need help on figuring out U.K. shoe sizes. I am looking on Ebay U.K. and I notice there is no widths listed. [huh] Also, the same U.K. size will have different Eur sizes. :eusa_doh: I wear a 13 b or c, but I can not figure out which size U.K. would be the best fit.
Any help is welcomed!!!!!!!!1
 

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A UK size is listed 1/2 size smaller than US (i.e. 9 UK = 9 1/2 US). I usually get a narrow or medium width which is a B or a C in the US.

I have also seen equivalency charts on some UK websites.

Hope this helps.
 

Duck

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That is what I was thinking, but most of the listings list a U.K. size 12 as a U.S. 13 and Euro 46 and 47. This is what is confusing me.
 

Vermifuge

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Duck said:
I need help on figuring out U.K. shoe sizes. I am looking on Ebay U.K. and I notice there is no widths listed. [huh] Also, the same U.K. size will have different Eur sizes. :eusa_doh: I wear a 13 b or c, but I can not figure out which size U.K. would be the best fit.
Any help is welcomed!!!!!!!!1

i find most UK shoes run a bit wide (about an F) A 13 c would be about a 12 in the UK. for a narrower width you are looking for an EX or E+
 

Vermifuge

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carter said:
A UK size is listed 1/2 size smaller than US (i.e. 9 UK = 9 1/2 US). I usually get a narrow or medium width which is a B or a C in the US.

I have also seen equivalency charts on some UK websites.

Hope this helps.

i believe it's a full size smaller. however most UK shoes do not come in 1/2 sizes
 

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In UK shoes they are wider per se like a US D is narrower then UK F and is actually UK E. The UK sizing is closer to the Euro sizing in dimensions. I can always fit a UK/Euro shoe better than a USA. The UK/Euro have more volume in the shoe.
 

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It really will depend on the last and your foot shape. Sizes and shapes will vary considerably from manufacturer to manufacturer, and even within a single company's different lasts. For example, I normally (that is, most often) wear a US 11.5D. That's the case, for example, for Allen-Edmonds' 5 last. But in their 8 last, I wear 11E.

Whatever size you "normally" wear in US shoes, you're probably safe to assume you should go down one half to one full size for UK-made shoes. However, your results will probably vary depending on the manufacturer, style, and last.

Also, when you're shopping on Ebay, keep in mind that some companies (Edward Green, Crockett & Jones, Church's, and others) make shoes for the American market with US sizing, and shoes for the UK market with UK sizing. It may not always be clear which is which.
 

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Shoes sizes

Orgetorix that last point is valuable advice.

My point about volume is also big...the area available inside the shoe. For instance I could read the dimensions of a shoe on eBay that correspond ie a size 10 might have exactly the same external measurements (sole width and length) as a size 11. That's why personally I like a shoe to be around 4.5 inches in sole width. It tends to indictae it might be EE etc = more volume.

There is basically no Euro 44 I can't wear even with an orthotic needed. Yet in the UK I need 10 and in USA normally always 11D/E or 11.5 or sometimes 10.5 E in say an AE 5 last (eg Broadstreets). Buying shoes on eBay outside of knowing a standard like AE EG etc is difficult and prone to disappointment for the uninitiated.

Can I throw in another problem?

Vintage shoes are generally smaller in dimension than their tagged size especially from pre 1955.
 

Duck

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Thanks for the help, everbody. I was skimming Ebay UK and found that there is a much greater variety of boots, that I can not find in the states.
 

Vermifuge

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Duck said:
Thanks for the help, everbody. I was skimming Ebay UK and found that there is a much greater variety of boots, that I can not find in the states.

What are you looking for in a "boot" Work Boot? Cowboy Boot? Dress or military boot?
 

Vermifuge

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Duck said:
Something like a brogue boot and / or lace up dress boot.

Hmmm Google doesn't help narrow that down much. i have had great luck with Danner boots. American made since 1932. They make a few slip-on style boots. they may be a little more western then what you are looking for.

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I get the feeling your looking for something a little dressier. still worth noting if yor looking for tough boot.
 

Edward

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Vermifuge said:
i believe it's a full size smaller. however most UK shoes do not come in 1/2 sizes

It is popularly a full size smaller in the UK than the US. If memory serves, technically it is a half size, but because so few shoes are produced in half sizes nowadays, a full size down US - > UK is the de facto standard. I wear a UK 8 and in US sourced shoes typically wear a 9 with no problems whatever.


(Great avatar, BTW. Always nice to see another Joker about. :) ).
 

Anthony Jordan

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As far as I am aware, all makers of UK men's shoes of reasonable quality offer half sizes. The diferentiation tends to come when widths come into the equation - Clark's doesn't appear to offer a choice of widths, for example, whilst Loake and better manufacturers do. The most common system of width fittings appears to run E-G, with E being relatively narrow, F being an average fitting, and G wide. This arrangement is common to Loake, Alfred Sargent and Church's, to name three that I am familiar with. Crockett and Jones have a similar system but with E being the average width. Tricker's have a numerical system, 5 being average. Most UK shoe stores and websites tend to only carry the average and wider fittings, though (so F&G in Church's, E&F in Crockett and Jones, 5&6 in Tricker's..
 

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