A simple question, though i suspect I might not get a simple answer! The sample i have from Aero is .....well, black. Defo not brown. In fact in blind comparisons I chose it as "blacker" than the black vicenza. But I see from some comments on the web others seem to detect the brown basecoat when looking at a full jacket. Which could be because they expect to. Or they could be right because my small sample might be misleading.