Want to buy or sell something? Check the classifieds
  • The Fedora Lounge is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Please support us by using them. You may learn more here.

I can't believe this sort of attitude still persists today

Status
Not open for further replies.

Salv

One Too Many
Messages
1,247
Location
Just outside London
Twitch said:
Ah, but the Canadians, and Americans, were sure welcome when old Aldolf was on the prowl a few years ago, eh?

Because of course all Brits feel exactly the same as that drunk that had a pop at CharlesB. We're just a bunch of ingrates who don't realise how lucky we are not to be speaking German.
 

FedoraGent

One Too Many
Messages
1,221
Location
San Francisco Bay Area
Just dismiss it.

CharlesB,

Just dismiss it as the blithering meanderings of a drunk twit. Because that's what it was, a twit spouting his mouth off due to his own ignorance. Don't let it have any power over you. And honestly, I strongly dislike intolerance of that sort. But as a rule, I ignore people like that.

FG.
 

eightbore

Suspended
Messages
165
Location
North of 60
cookie said:
Yeah but a Southern accent doesn't stop you being President anymore 3 in the last 30 years is not bad!

Tell me you aren't counting the Bush clan as southern? Unless one counts being born in "southern" Connecticut, summering in "southern" Maine and attending secondary school in "southern" New Hampshire as "being southern", the Bush bunch is really "all hat and no cattle". I can move to Texas tomorrow, but that doesn't really make me a cowboy does it...no matter how much I try to sound "common"? A Stanford linguist actually coined a term describing the Bush manner of speaking. He called it "faux-bubba".

:D :D :D
 

Starius

Practically Family
Messages
698
Location
Neverwhere, Iowa
BegintheBeguine said:
My parents, from Louisiana and Georgia, made sure they lost their accents as they wanted to move up the career ladder and it's true that that whenever people hear a Southern accent, they always want to deduct 100 IQ points.
Ashley

Yeah, that does seem to be true.... just yesterday, I was watching a video on youtube of a guy making a particular argument. While I agreed with almost all of his points, he still sounded like he didn't know what he was talking about because of his southern accent - and also because almost every other word was a swear word.


Seems we are judged (and judge) on how our speech is dressed just as much as how our bodies are.
 

Benny Holiday

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,764
Location
Sydney Australia
There's nothing like a nasty drunk to spoil your evening, and unfortunately, at this time of the year there are plenty of drunks to be found out and about.

In a related incident, I once really annoyed to discover that a supposed 'class distinction' attitude still prevails here in Sydney a few years back. My band was booked to perform at a private function in Cammeray, in well-heeled North Sydney. Both the bass player and guitarist were named Rob. As we departed, one of the so-called upper class women who'd spoken with the band members called out a farewell to 'Rob'. Both Robs replied in kind - guitarist Rob from Woolstonecraft, in the North, with his plummier accent, and bassist Rob from the West, with his broad Australian accent. The woman actually snottily responded, "No not you - I was speaking to the other Rob." Can you believe that? :rage:

Sad that an accent or perceived class can be the catalyst for social stupidity in this day and age.
 

eightbore

Suspended
Messages
165
Location
North of 60
Starius said:
Seems we are judged (and judge) on how our speech is dressed just as much as how our bodies are.

Said the man in the big furry trooper hat. :) Just kidding I actually need one just like it. :)

Best,

eightbore
 

Doh!

One Too Many
Messages
1,079
Location
Tinsel Town
I was temping in an office years ago, when one of my fellow temps (a New Yorker) asked me where I was from. When I told him St. Louis, he looked at me kind of puzzledly and said, "But you don't have a southern accent."

I politely told him, "That's because St. Louis ISN'T IN THE SOUTH."

(OK, maybe not so politely.)
 

Miss Brill

One Too Many
Messages
1,199
Location
on the edge of propriety
I've lived in Tennessee 28 of my 35 years & people still rag me about my Yankee accent. I talk too fast, and I talk too "proper" so no one can understand what I'm saying. People are stupid. [huh]
 

Hausfrau

New in Town
Messages
19
Location
Phoenix, Arizona
I've had that happen to me loads in London for my American accent when I lived there! I've had rocks thrown at me by kids and made fun of at almost every shop I went to. The sad thing is I am a British Citizen and my parents are East Londoners.. However, now, considering the state of things in the UK I don't blame them for getting edgy around "foreigners".
 

Ecuador Jim

A-List Customer
Messages
346
Location
Seattle
LizzieMaine said:
I do this too -- I worked for ten years for a British gal with a very plummy BBC accent (which she picked up working for the BBC, oddly enough), and whenever we got together to work on a project I'd end up sounding like her. Once when she had laryngitis and couldn't do her radio show I recorded it for her -- and no one was ever the wiser!

However, I have tried very hard to eradicate my own accent -- except for the occasional "ayuh" and "yessah" slipping out, most people can never tell where I come from.

Ah, Lizzie, some of us love the sound of a true Mainer :) :) :)
 

carebear

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,220
Location
Anchorage, AK
Hausfrau said:
I've had that happen to me loads in London for my American accent when I lived there! I've had rocks thrown at me by kids and made fun of at almost every shop I went to. The sad thing is I am a British Citizen and my parents are East Londoners.. However, now, considering the state of things in the UK I don't blame them for getting edgy around "foreigners".

What possible state can things be in where an American accent could rationally cause alarm or concern?

Are they afraid we might vote for someone they don't like right in front of them or something? [huh]
 
There's no fear of the American accent in the UK. Some people find it impossible to separate the policies of governments/MICs and the people from the countries those corporations represent. Some people, and this is particularly evident when they're drunk, don't understand that Federal Government PLC does not represent the views of every American. Therefore they direct their anger and hatred at the people they hear.

people are dumb. this is not confined to Anglo-American affairs. It's a worldwide phenomenon.

bk
 

Jovan

Suspended
Messages
4,095
Location
Gainesville, Florida
I think I'd survive. I pick up accents fairly easily like some people have commented in this thread. As a result, no one is ever quite sure where I'm from.

I'm technically Canadian born, though mostly raised here in Florida. Ironically though, my Canadian friend thinks I sound "like a surfer." I don't know what the hell he's talking about.

Getting back on topic, I agree you should ignore him. I've met maybe one Brit in my life who actually thinks that way, and he was just another Internet Tough Guy. (Bloke? :p)
 

Haversack

One Too Many
Messages
1,193
Location
Clipperton Island
Starius wrote: "Seems we are judged (and judge) on how our speech is dressed just as much as how our bodies are."

-Paging Professor Higgins. Telephone call for Henry Higgins!-

Haversack.
 

carebear

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,220
Location
Anchorage, AK
Baron Kurtz said:
There's no fear of the American accent in the UK. Some people find it impossible to separate the policies of governments/MICs and the people from the countries those corporations represent. Some people, and this is particularly evident when they're drunk, don't understand that Federal Government PLC does not represent the views of every American. Therefore they direct their anger and hatred at the people they hear.

people are dumb. this is not confined to Anglo-American affairs. It's a worldwide phenomenon.

bk


Baron,

I wasn't actually using the word "fearful", it was this comment that raised the question.

Hausfrau said:
However, now, considering the state of things in the UK I don't blame them for getting edgy around "foreigners".

I guess my question should have been more direct.

Hausfrau,

What is "the state of things in the UK" you're referring to? What do you mean by "edgy"?

If I'm reading it right, the remark referred to crime/terrorism/racial tension in the UK.

What confuses me is what possible connection an American accent wuld have to the kind of "foreigners" that might be making people be "edgy"?

All anyone seems to have with us is a political beef, not that we are a direct threat to Britain or individuals there in any way.

[huh]
 

Benny Holiday

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,764
Location
Sydney Australia
Baron Kurtz said:
people are dumb. this is not confined to Anglo-American affairs. It's a worldwide phenomenon.

bk

My friend has summed it all up for us in three succinct sentences. This is the base reason for not only every silly comment about our accents or nationality, but also why we receive stupid comments because we choose not to follow the majority of the sheep in society but can think individually and thus dress and act differently from said sheep.
 

kokopelli

One of the Regulars
Messages
171
Location
East Tennessee
Accent, what accent

Seriously however, I do have a lot of fun with my accent. Sandy (wife) and I travel a lot and she really does the "southern thing". I've worked in the international community for thirty years, so I can hide my "southern side" when I need/want too. It's great fun to "please and thank you ma'am" my way around the US! We "southerners" also have the physical accents that can sometimes get us in trouble. We can't help but open doors for women and get close when speaking. I've gotten some strange comments about things like that. Sometimes the accent comes in very handy... Ron
 

pigeon toe

One Too Many
Messages
1,328
Location
los angeles, ca
Well I'm glad I didn't choose to study abroad in the UK! I'll be leaving for the Netherlands soon, I hope I don't encounter any of that over there. Somehow I doubt it though, all the Dutch exchange students I met over here were ridiculously nice and friendly. Then again, they did choose to come to the US, so who knows about everyone else!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
107,653
Messages
3,043,745
Members
53,017
Latest member
PerryShaw
Top