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Discussion in 'The Observation Bar' started by Chamorro, Jul 20, 2004.
Has the pendulum started to swing back? Are we outraged at the extreme liberal attitudes of the celebrity who think they are somehow royalty, and can spew their utopiotic rethoric at will?
Was she performing before a group of conservative Texans' on a rancher's convention? Soldiers from the local base on leave from Iraq?
It 's a free country, and it goes BOTH ways!
Yep, its a free country but there is always a reaction to an opinion. Those that wish to opine should expect to be either berated or agreed with. If I were a performer, I would keep my mouth shut when it comes to politics because I understand that people are there to watch you perform not spew invectives. Ah, the pointy headed liberals in Hollywood just do not understand that. LOL
I love the owner of that casino. Next time I am in Veags I am going to go see Wayne Newton again. Maybe I will do something I usually never do as well---gamble at his casino because at least I know it is going to a good cause. Pack her upa nd get the RV out.
Regards to all,
I applaud Mr. Timmins. Not just for silencing a radical liberal who thinks that just because they have a microphone they can say what ever they want, although that is noble in its own right. No, I praise the guy for not standing by while she wasted the concerts goers' hard-earned money. Those people went to see a concert, not a political rally or propaganda speech. If I were there, I would be pissed too.
This is a free country, and I believe in freedom of speech whether I agree with it or not. However, I also believe there is a time and place for certain topics. This was neither. The problem is these left wing celebrities have lost touch with reality and think that what they have to say is important to there audience. Even worse is the celebrity who tries to force their political view upon unprepared, captive fans. This is a clear abuse of their position and place in society. Michael Moore has a right to his opinions and I have a right not to see his movie. However, the stunt he pulled at the Oscars was uncalled for, unprofessional, and out of line. The same holds true for Linda Ronstadt and any other celebrity who tries to use their fame to impart their political views upon their unassuming audience. The more these far left wing, liberal, hippy, blame everything including the rain on Bush, blowhards speak the more I lean to the right. To me, these people do more to divide and tear apart the Country than good.
Your friendly conservative Texan
Regards to all,
Linda was a quite the looker when I was a young man....but those years shacking up with Jerry Brown didn't do her any good.
Celebrities are surounded by yes men. They start to think that most of the country.....if not the world.... are liberals.
They step out into the real world and discover they are mistaken.
fame does not = wisdom
Well, it seems to me that maybe Linda Ronstadt thinks that whatever she believes is the truth, and that she's the center of the universe. It is understandable that she feels that way, but I happen to know that she is mistaken in that belief. I happen to know that I'M the center of the universe and whatever I believe is the truth!
Conservative or Liberal, actions have repercussions. I am glad she was able to exercise her rights. Then again, the hotel owner exercised his rights!
Agreed. I am glad Linda got to find out that her view is not popular. Having worked in Hollywood for so long, I have seen first hand how insulated celebrities are. I am betting Linda was very surprised at the response.
Let them eat cake!
Two Words: Dixie Chicks.
When I go see a movie, I don't pay to see a political rally. I don't care what they have to say about politics. When the plumber comes to fix the sink or when I'm in Starbucks for a cup of joe... I don't want a lecture about how my world veiw sucks.
You got something to say, Lynn? Put it in a freaking song!
I was happy to see this response to Ronstadt's comments as well. I would support the owner if it was the other way around as well and a conservative performer was booted. The only difference is that I am conservative and would be angry but I would still support the owner's rights to employ whom ever he wishes.
I dislike movies and entertainment that blatantly pushes a liberal message. However, I like movies and entertainment that have conservative views. I totally understand that this is a double standard but that's how it goes. Everyone should be free to make whatever film they like and I should be free to see what I prefer. Actors that come out as liberal attack dogs turn me off as well. Some of them I will no longer pay to see. Others I will tolerate and enjoy as long as their movies stay in the realm of escapist entertainment and not become liberal propaganda. I was watching the remake of "Ocean's 11" the other night and while I do not agree with George Clooney or Brad Pitt on their politics I do enjoy that movie because it isn't used as a political platform. Just a fun heist flick.
Speaking of Clooney, I saw a portion of "The Peacemaker" with him and Nicole Kidman recently. It was a scene with them sitting on a plane discussing the actions to take against terrorists. What struck me as very amusing was that here were too very liberal actors playing a scene that successfully argues the conservative point of view. I wonder if they realized that at the time of filming or if they even think about such things.
Edge, I think you hit on the crux of the whole issue---let the marketplace determine what is seen and talked about. If liberal socies want to buy Clintoon's book then fine vote with your dollars. If conservatives want to buy books from Ann Coulter that is fine too. Let the market decide and do not complain about "a chill wind blowing over Hollywood." Don't like it as an entertainer then go back to being a waiter---a job you are eminently qualified for.
These people do not realize how good they have it. Empty head and parrot lines put into your mouth---make millions. At this rate we will soon have to pay parrots to speak in our homes. LOL
I have seen both Ocean's 11s. I vote for the old one with Frank. This does not mean that I cannot like a movie like The Shadow even though I cannot stand Baldwin. Maybe his hat had something to do with it, the surrealism of the sets, the wardrobe, the laugh, one man making a difference or the whole idea of mind control. I can't put my finger on it exactly but I like it. :cool2: I guess I can buy into the escapism for this case.
Regards to all,
I really don't believe Cloony or other actors "Think", Edge. I believe they "think" what they feel is the most popular stance and run with in.
While they're talking about "making peace", they forget there are irrational people who simply want to kill us because we don't believe and dress the way they do.
You can not reason with unreasonable people, you can not rationalize with irrational people.
The world is not in the crapper yet, guys. And it can't be full of idiots. Sure, tons of people go to see "F911". Why? Because there is hype about it. Going to see a film doesn't mean they agree with it. If those that do agree with it rise and applaud at the end; so be it, that is their right.
If you recall, Moore had just as many if not MORE "boos" as "yays" at the Oscars after his little hate speech there. That's what makes the USA great--Conservatives and Liberals are neck in neck.
What worries me is that the Media seems to think there are infinitely more Libs then Conservatives. And the Libs think that there is something illegitamate about Conservatism. That is when you have REAL problems. Slowly but surely the Left will deem the Right as archaic and illegit. I could go on for hours--fortunatley we ain't there yet!
""What country do you live in?" Moore asked. "Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called, 'The First Amendment.'...For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American."
Can you believe this guy?
How did this amazing looking girl that I used to adore in High School....
......end up looking like this:
I'll take fat celebrities for $100, Alex.
"How did this amazing looking girl that I used to adore in High School...."
Simple, she's full of herself....LOL LOL
And everything in the refrigerator too!
Re: I'll take fat celebrities for $100, Alex.
You forgot about everything in the freezer as well. Wow! She has packed on another person. That must be the one controlling her brain. LOL
I can never understand celebrities who think what they ponder matters to me. "Shut up and sing." LOL
Regards to all,
Yikes, the years have had their effects! But anyway, on subject, Bill Oreilly debated on this issue, I have to agree it seems a bit too much for the hotel to practically kick her out, but I do understand their point of view, it just seems a bit rediculous.
It turns out that she not only made those inappropriate political comments, but also insulted the hotel throughout the entire performance. She apparently was trying to be kicked out.
Give me a break. So Michael Moore supports the Constitution? How can people pick and choose what Amendments they support? Wasn't Bowling for Columbine a total anti-2nd Amendment film? Among other lies, Moore was trying to connect the founding of the NRA with the KKK! It was a terrible film. I do not mind Liberal. I do not mind Conservative. What I do mind is a hypocrite or any political stripe.
Like I said before, Linda has a right to say what she wants. People have their right not to agree with it! It takes people of different opinions to keep this country great!