This Lost Worlds has started the break-in process nice grain developing. The horsehide belt, a $200 addition is included. Heavy Lost Worlds 4+ oz hide, the only jacket I have in competition weight-wise is my 40s Star Glove CHP. No size or wear just grain and some relaxation of the leather. I purchased this Trojan from a respected Forum member worried it would be too resistive in the chest. I lost weight and it turns out the jacket is large at the shoulders and waist on me. Chest 23 - 23-1/2 inches Shoulders straight across back 19-1/2 inches seem larger to me Sleeves from shoulder along the curve 26 inches Sleeves from pit straight 18-1/2 inches Back from neck seam 23 inches $775 shipped US PP & FF or add 3% if not FF $1,750 from Lost World with shipping Priced 44% of what it will cost from LW and better than new with the break-in and you can see the characteristics of this hide no surprises I going to let this sale run one week before I list on the bay. I think this jacket is a good deal started .