My Schott 519 in Brown – Thoughts, Fit, and My Growing Collection

[Leather&Fit]

Yeh, the back is too long for your torso, for a traditional double-zip. If you like it, that's all that matters, but since you came here asking, that's my take.

The leather on the jacket and your video skills are top-notch, however!

Thanks a lot really appreciate the honest input and the kind words!
Yeah, the 519 does run a bit longer in the back, especially with the double zip design. I totally see where you’re coming from. That said, I’ve really grown to like how it wears especially after the tailoring. It’s not everyone’s fit, but it feels right for me now.

And thank you for the compliment on the video work.

 

[Leather&Fit]

I'm sure everyone's opinion has been made perfectly clear at this point, no? Op produced enjoyable content and got the jacket to fit like they want, no need to express your feelings about the fit anymore at this point.

Thank you! Really appreciate your thoughtful words.
Exactly I shared the journey because I know how tricky sizing can be with Schott jackets, especially with models like the 519. In the end, I tailored it for my preferences and I'm happy with the result. Glad to hear you enjoyed the content too!

 

[Leather&Fit]

And you feel the need to tell other members what needs to be expressed and what doesn't? You sure that's a viable strategy on a forum?

It’s not a strategy, mate just a reminder that it’s all optional.
If my videos or posts somehow bother you, feel free to skip them no hard feelings.
I’m sure someone out there will find it helpful, and that’s good enough for me.

 

[Leather&Fit]

Taking in the chest of a leather jacket by 1.5cm might be the most pointless alteration I've ever heard of, and within the margin of error.

I'm guessing Justsomedude is one of OP's fellow TikTok influencers and the TikTok guys have discovered TFL as a source of free information.

Appreciate the input. 1.5 cm might sound small on paper, but in a tailored leather jacket, even subtle changes can have a big visual impact especially when combined with other adjustments.

 

[Leather&Fit]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback positive or critical. I truly appreciate the engagement.

I know not every jacket or fit will please every eye, and that’s totally fine. But I also think it’s important to remember: people join this forum to share their journey, ask questions, and hopefully help or inspire others along the way.

Whether it’s measurements, tailoring, sizing experiments or photography. I try to contribute in a way that might be useful for someone, somewhere.

This forum exists to help and inform and I’m grateful to be part of the conversation. Let’s keep it constructive, even if we disagree.

 

[TartuWolf]

It’s not a strategy, mate just a reminder that it’s all optional.
If my videos or posts somehow bother you, feel free to skip them no hard feelings.
I’m sure someone out there will find it helpful, and that’s good enough for me.

Alright mate, you lost me right there.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

I just saw your vid. Considering your video editing skills, I think you could've directly shown the before and after side-by-side like above.

Tbh, even after your alterations, it looks like it barely made any difference to the overall fit.

The feedback has been constructive imo - most people said it wasn't worth the effort of getting this jacket tailored and you'd be better served returning/selling it and finding a new one. I agree with that feedback.

 

[Leather&Fit]

Alright mate, you lost me right there.

Alright all the best.

 

[Justsomedude]

And you feel the need to tell other members what needs to be expressed and what doesn't? You sure that's a viable strategy on a forum?

Please read my comment again. I was referring to the fact that many people might find it uncourteous to give negative feedback AFTER "I'm happy with the jacket" has already been said.

Do you understand now?

 

[newtojackets]

Not gonna lie, this has to be the most trivial argument I’ve seen on this website. Everyone is arguing about literally the smallest thing

 

[Aloysius]

Appreciate the input. 1.5 cm might sound small on paper, but in a tailored leather jacket, even subtle changes can have a big visual impact especially when combined with other adjustments.

Actually, no. Additional chest space is basically never a problem on a double breasted jacket because it just adds to the V shape.

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I just saw your vid. Considering your video editing skills, I think you could've directly shown the before and after side-by-side like above.

Tbh, even after your alterations, it looks like it barely made any difference to the overall fit.

The feedback has been constructive imo - most people said it wasn't worth the effort of getting this jacket tailored and you'd be better served returning/selling it and finding a new one. I agree with that feedback.

Which one is the before? They look identical except the chest and shoulders are worse on the right, and the sleeve length is worse on the left.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Which one is the before? They look identical except the chest and shoulders are worse on the right, and the sleeve length is worse on the left.

Left one. What you said basically goes with his alterations:

• Shortened the sleeves
• Brought the shoulders in slightly
• Tightened the chest by about 1.5 cm

When directly comparing the before/after - yes, there are some minor differences in chest/shoulder area and the folds do show that.
But ultimately no appreciable difference to the overall fit. Still doesn't look quite right.
Only thing that worked out was the sleeve length.

 

[Aloysius]

Left one. What you said basically goes with his alterations:

When directly comparing the before/after - yes, there are some minor differences in chest/shoulder area and the folds do show that.
But ultimately no appreciable difference to the overall fit. Still doesn't look quite right.
Only thing that worked out was the sleeve length.

I wonder what leads to people (not just this TikToker but TFL people as well) thinking that folds in the chest are poor fit rather than actually an important part of patterning that is designed to improve silhouette and range of movement. I don't think that mistake would have been made back when TFL had more people into suits. Maybe that's the crux of it? People on this side of the site coming from maybe athleisure as a background?

There's not much of an appreciable difference but what's there looks worse to my eye, except the sleeve length fix. If he'd simply had the sleeves shortened and (crucially) shortened the length by an inch (which would be an extremely easy alteration because the belt on this model is higher than the hem anyway) it would have been a solid move.

 

[newtojackets]

You’re saying that having the folds increases mobility or vice versa?

I wonder what leads to people (not just this TikToker but TFL people as well) thinking that folds in the chest are poor fit rather than actually an important part of patterning that is designed to improve silhouette and range of movement. I don't think that mistake would have been made back when TFL had more people into suits. Maybe that's the crux of it? People on this side of the site coming from maybe athleisure as a background?

There's not much of an appreciable difference but what's there looks worse to my eye, except the sleeve length fix. If he'd simply had the sleeves shortened and (crucially) shortened the length by an inch (which would be an extremely easy alteration because the belt on this model is higher than the hem anyway) it would have been a solid move.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

I wonder what leads to people (not just this TikToker but TFL people as well) thinking that folds in the chest are poor fit rather than actually an important part of patterning that is designed to improve silhouette and range of movement. I don't think that mistake would have been made back when TFL had more people into suits. Maybe that's the crux of it? People on this side of the site coming from maybe athleisure as a background?

Not sure if you're referring to me - but I brought up the folds as more of a giveaway of where the alterations took place. I didn't say that having folds leads to a poor fit. I get the functional reason for them.

 

[Aloysius]

You’re saying that having the folds increases mobility or vice versa?

Increases, obviously.

Not sure if you're referring to me - but I brought up the folds as more of a giveaway of where the alterations took place. I didn't say that having folds leads to a poor fit. I get the functional reason for them.

Oh I know you do. I'm talking about the logic that led to this strange alteration with no visual payoff.

 

[Carlos840]

If' we're going to be 100% honest i find the length actually pretty unflattering, it makes you look short, it gives the impression your legs are the same length as your torso and makes you look shorter.

 

[Aloysius]

If' we're going to be 100% honest i find the length actually pretty unflattering, it makes you look short, it gives the impression your legs are the same length as your torso and makes you look shorter.

If he'd simply trimmed the inch of length under the belt it might have been a worthwhile alteration.

Some jackets do allow for a slightly longer length, like the Johnson model that's Langlitz and Cal inspired (I believe you have one of those as well), but this one just looks stretched unless you're quite tall. The 519 is a good inch or two longer than the same pattern in the 613S/SH model.