Not to be political but.THIS IS WRONG

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  1. Lean'n'mean

    Lean'n'mean My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    I wonder what the real Americans feel about the flag being used this way....:rolleyes: are there any native American members on the forum ?
     
  2. LuvMyMan

    LuvMyMan I’ll Lock Up.

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    I actually have a few Native American Indian friends, I hardly think of that part of "whom" they are as they are just on the list of other sweet souls that are my friends. However, I do know what they view about this United States. I'd have to sum it up as, "America, Love it or Leave it".............
     
  3. LuvMyMan

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    Those Flags are sure a wonderful beautiful sight to see. THANKS!
     
  4. LuvMyMan

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    I do not see how anyone could "worship" a Flag, but I sure can see how to worship what it stands for (sort of worship, not extending it to such as a love for God). Some Americans have deep passion for this great Nation. Put me and our Family on that list, without hesitation.
     
  5. LizzieMaine

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    I personally knew a man who was savagely beaten by a mob in the town of Litchfield, Illinois, in 1940 because his religious convictions prevented him from saluting any flag. The kind of person who participates in such a mob is the kind of person who worships a flag without even the slightest bit of awareness of the principles that it's supposed to represent. If that's "Americanism," not only do I want no part of it, I stand in absolute opposition to it.
     
  6. Frunobulax

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    Yes, I was born in America. In Ohio.
     
  7. sheeplady

    sheeplady I'll Lock Up Bartender

    I wasn't. Apologies if you thought I was being snippy towards you.
     
  8. Michaelshane

    Michaelshane One Too Many

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    People will use any excuse to mob up and be savages.You only have to go back a few weeks for examples of that.Americanism has nothing to do with it.
     
  9. Michaelshane

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    Yep...Native American here.
     
  10. Feraud

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    Agreed.

    There are far worse things done under the guise of America and being a "real American" to take a mundane photograph too seriously.
     
  11. Michaelshane

    Michaelshane One Too Many

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    Pretty much proud of the flag,and to be Americans.

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  12. Lean'n'mean

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    You must be older than you look :D



    " Patriots are those who shout the loudest without knowing what they're shouting about"





    I don't think America has the monopoly on blind allegiance so I wouldn't be too worried on that score. I think your reasoned comments shine like a beacon through the obscur mists that have shrouded this thread. :)
     
  13. Most local Boy Scout troops will gladly take front porch US Flags & retire them properly.
     
  14. LizzieMaine

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    Well, I knew him over thirty years ago, when I was in my twenties and he was in his eighties. His name was Clarence Huzzey, and he was one of a group of sixty Jehovah's Witnesses distributing literature in Litchfield in the summer of 1940 when a mob of about 2000 people set upon them, wrecked their cars, burned their literature, beat them bloody, and then threw most of them in jail. Officials of the Litchfield American Legion, local police, and members of the local clergy were among the leaders of the mob. And all in the name of "patriotism" and "respect for the Flag."
     
  15. tonyb

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    So I take it that the retiring of a high-quality sewn flag (separate the stripes, etc.) differs from the treatment properly accorded a cheap printed flag?

    My underlying point, of course, is that defining just what makes one thing a flag deserving treatment as outlined in the Flag Code and another thing not a flag (such as those little paper flags on the toothpick holding one's restaurant sandwich together, to which I alluded earlier, and which we have all seen) is far from clear to me. What about those small (roughly 5 by 7 inches, say) flags on wooden sticks with gold-tone pointed finials that are handed out to kids to wave at parades and such? What's the proper way to retire those?

    I acknowledge that digging into the minutiae is kinda silly. Of course different standards will apply to different flags. We really don't expect anyone to "properly" retire a paper flag on a toothpick. But I'm in the same camp as our Ms. Maine in questioning why folks would be angered by the image that opened this thread and not seem to care about the blatantly commercial uses of the flag, which are much more prevalent, and which are equally contrary to the Flag Code.
     
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  16. vitanola

    vitanola I'll Lock Up

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    That's "100% Americanism", don't you know.
     
  17. Not to speak for anyone else, but I think the initial objection to the image was that it appeared to be a flag that had been used for its intented purpose, and not a "copy of a flag". That a flag that had "served" deserved certain treatment.

    As for flags used for commercial purposes, I don't care for any of it. Not that I get up on my hind legs over it though. My wife likes to hang the flag on the porch for certain occassions, and I'm fine with that. I do, however, request certain etiquette, such as taking it down in the rain and at night. Then again I'm also one who believes you should take your hat off at the dinner table. There are just certain protocols that are appreciated and should be encouraged whenever possible, even if observance is not required by federal law.
     
  18. Guess what message I received AGAIN from Stetson.com at 10:02am today after the message from Customer Service Manager Bailey said they were no longer using????
     
  19. Bamaboots

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    Commercialization of the flag has been around for a long time and it's something I've never understood, cared for or let it affect my purchases one way or another. I understand what the flag represents and also what the flag code is. I've worked KKK rallies where the coneheads were displaying more U. S. Flags than Cofederate ones. I've also seen police departments with huge flag decals on the hoods of their patrol vehicles. Not a fan of that one either. This came out in 1971, another controversial time in our country.
    http://youtu.be/DgRVNjsuycQ
     
  20. 89quattro

    89quattro One of the Regulars

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    Just received this e-mail promotion from Delmonico's

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