Nothing but Seamed Stockings

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  1. jitterbugdoll

    jitterbugdoll Call Me a Cab

    The lower the denier, the finer and more sheer the stocking (and also more delicate and prone to runs.) The higher the gauge, the more needles used to knit the stocking, and the more silky the stocking will feel.
     
  2. Goodie2Shoes

    Goodie2Shoes New in Town

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    Through my search.............. I see they also had knee highs. I saw a modern day pinup pic with a girl who was wearing knee highs and it looked like she had those sock garters like men used to wear holding them up. Does anyone know if this was the way it was? Also what era would that have come into play?
     
  3. Goodie2Shoes

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    Thanks Jitterbug ;)
     
  4. jitterbugdoll

    jitterbugdoll Call Me a Cab

    They actually had knee high 'hold-ups' (as well as thigh highs) that were made with Lastex to secure the stocking. I have a catalog from the 1939 advertising both styles, which were available in fancy color combinations (for example, nude with red seams), as were the regular stockings.
     
  5. Goodie2Shoes

    Goodie2Shoes New in Town

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    Jitterbug--
    I just think thats great. I have a catalog with 40's fashions but never saw anything like that. It all fascinates me so much! I'm going to look up the knee high hold ups. If you ever get a chance and wouldn't mind I would LOVE to see a scan or 2 of this catalog's stocking/knee high collection you spoke of. How sexy red seams on nude stockings...I LOVE IT!

    :D
     
  6. KittyT

    KittyT I'll Lock Up

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    as JBD said, a lower denier is a sheerer stocking. it's really a matter of preference. i actually don't much like 15d stockings and prefer 30d - not only because they hold up better but because the seams are more visible on the heavier stockings and if i'm wearing fully fashioned stockings, i want to be damned sure everyone can tell :) besides, the heavier ones do a better job of covering flaws, and if you have lots of scars or discolored spots like i do, it just looks better.
     
  7. ShrinkingViolet

    ShrinkingViolet A-List Customer

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    Does anyone like to wear black fully fashioned stockings? I've never seen original photos of ladies wearing them, so I assume they weren't very common.
    I'd like to try them, but I can't really get the 1980's associations out of my head ... the blonde lady in "Top Gun" wearing black ff's, Kim Basinger in "9¬? Weeks", Benny Hill-chicks, that kind of thing! lol
     
  8. GOK

    GOK One Too Many

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    I wear them all the time (well, obviously not in bed or with trousers!) - I've never ever associated them with the '80s, possibly because I've never seen the films you mention. Ignorance really *is* bliss! :D

    Instead of the '80s, think Dita and Bettie - so much more glam! I've definitely seen films from the '40s where ladies are wearing black FFs. Go for it SV!
     
  9. Sunny

    Sunny One Too Many

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    Aha, I've been wanting to share something I saw that was incredibly illuminating. I've been suspecting that black fully-fashioneds were actually more conservative than the nude ones. Surely many older women, who'd grown up with fine cotton stockings, would be uncomfortable showing their skin through sheer nylon.

    I was watching an episode of The Saint television show. The one in question was made in 1967 or 1968, and was in color.

    A woman was using a Salvation Army uniform as a disguise. The uniform is all black (or very dark navy) with insignia and a cap, and she was wearing plain black low-heel shoes, either oxfords or slip-ons. As she got into a car, I saw that she was wearing black fully-fashioned stockings. :eek:

    You get it? I've already read a few anecdotes of how seamed stockings were pass?© in the 1950s; remember that teenager who was so embarrassed to wear them to school? In 1968, black seamed stockings were dowdy, worn as part of a deliberately unfashionable uniform. It would make even more sense if they'd been on the conservative end of fashion even when they were fashionable.
     
  10. KittyT

    KittyT I'll Lock Up

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    Yes, I wear them but not very often. It just depends on the outfit!
     
  11. Tough Cookie

    Tough Cookie One of the Regulars

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    Stocking questions

    Hey there all! Been away for a bit, life suddenly imploded on me. to help lift my spirits I decided I would treat myself to a good garter belt and stockings, to compliment the repro dresses I've been collecting. I think this is the garter belt I've settled on from Alexis4U: black lace general-use belt. I decided to go with a garter rather than a girdle for now.

    I have read for many hours on stocking threads courtesy of the search function, but I still have some questions.

    1) I love the look of the seamed stockings with both Cuban and French heels. However, with the reinforcement in the toe, I'm thinking that these would not be appropriate/attractive to wear with peep-toe shoes, correct?

    1A) Where would one find sheer-toed stockings?
    1B) Is it unrealistic to look for sheer toes with a specialty heel?

    2) Are the vintage style (FF and/or RHT) saggy at the ankles and knees? I'd rather not sport that particular look, vintage though it might be.

    2A) Where would one find retro-looking gartered stockings with modern materials to avoid the sags?

    I think I'm going to go with Magnolia for the stockings, the prices seem reasonable (especially compared to Alexis4U, heh). But the sizing info page isn't complete! I'd appreciate any input you ladies have time for. :) Thank you.
     
  12. badleekitty

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    :eek:fftopic: I was wondering what type of shoes do you gals wear with seamed cuban feet stocking?? I just got two pairs from what katie did and I just love them. I usually just wear the regular thigh high stocking with no seams. Most of the shoes I own are with a peep toe do you think these type of heels will look funny with these type of stockings??? Or do you guys have any idea which type of heel looks best with these stockings.
     
  13. Sunny

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    I'm sorry not to respond immediately, but I'm a bit perturbed.

    Why were the latest pages of posts deleted? Yes, there was a bit of 'talk' that wasn't strictly on-topic. But if nothing else, I found the discussion of white FF stockings to be very interesting and a good start toward actually researching the topic. Why was all that removed?
     
  14. KittyT

    KittyT I'll Lock Up

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    It is perfectly OK to wear peep-toes with FF stockings. Women did it all the time back in the 40s. However, I wouldn't wear open-toed heels. A peep is ok though, and a true peep doesn't even show much of your toes anyway.

    You can find fakie French heels at Victoria's Secret and I believe they have a sheer toe. You will not find a true FF stocking with a sheer toe. That said, women wore them with peep-toed shoes ALL the time. Don't worry about it.

    Yes, FF are saggy - IF they don't fit right. You need to have a stocking that is the right size and length for you and you need to wear it with a girdle or a long-line style garter belt so that it is pulled tightly into place and stays there. If you wear FF stockings with a regular garter belt, you are likely to get sags because the garter belt will either stretch/pull down or it will slide down.

    I believe What Katie Did has repro FF stockings made with modern materials that have some stretch to them.

    The best sizing information is at http://www.stockingshowcase.com/sizing.asp
     
  15. GwenLake

    GwenLake One of the Regulars

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    Are you sure this is the right thread? It might have been that one:
    http://thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=11913
     
  16. ShrinkingViolet

    ShrinkingViolet A-List Customer

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    I just wanted to warn you that Magnolia stockings are longer than average. The ones I ordered said 'opera length' on the label although I hadn't asked specifically for that, so maybe all the stockings they do are opera lenght. The feet seem bigger too. [huh]

    I got my first pairs of black FF's, by the way! They are really flattering to the legs and not as '1980's naughty' as I feared. I even think I prefer these over the chocolate coloured and nude ones I usually wear. What are everyone's favourite stockings colours?
     
  17. Nashoba

    Nashoba One Too Many

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    I tend to stick to nude and nude with black backseam although I do have one pair of white ones that I wear when occassion requires
     
  18. Sunny

    Sunny One Too Many

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    *whew* Yes, that was it! I guess there's a limit to how useful consolidating threads can be. A discussion of white stockings doesn't really belong in either thread. Thanks!
     
  19. Sunny

    Sunny One Too Many

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    Mine didn't say 'opera length' at all, but they were both long and with big feet. I'm 5'9" with my height in my legs, and wear a size 9 shoe. The mediums were just about perfect for me. Go figure.
     
  20. BonnieJean

    BonnieJean Practically Family

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    Not gone....

    Sunny,
    Don't worry, that discussion is on this thread.
    There are actually 2 threads about stockings.
     

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