Photos of cool jackets owned by others (non-brand specific)

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  1. jonbuilder

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    Elspeth Beard was first Englishwoman to circumnavigate the world by motorcycle in the early 1980s, her journey took 3 years. 28fc302aebc9fde891004b9cdd2d3fad.jpg
     
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    I'm not the biggest fan of the classic B3, but I think this one is kind of cool.
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    Unfortunately, in Covid Times, money is very much an issue. And one of those Alice Balas jackets is more than two months of our mortgage payments! Le Sigh.
     
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  7. Edward

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    Great lady. Motolegends in Guildford did an event with her a couple of years ago - if memory serves, they also did an expedition with her and a group of lady riders.
     
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  9. handymike

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    Not a Thedi...Kelso maybe.
     
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    You're right, it does look like the cadett.
     
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    There are details found on Kelso’s jackets (the way the side straps are folded and the black d-rings). Can’t figure out what the leather is from the German website but it’s not Liberty.
     
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    It's cowhide. (Rindleder)
     
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    what ever it is, I like it.. looks pretty good, and at a fair price
     
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    Possibly. Was there ever a conclusion in the debate as to where Kelso were made and by whom? When BK first started they gave the impression of being either an offshoot of or at least sourced from a long-established company that had decided to get into the retro game. I know at one point Thedi were thought to be a source, but they apparently weren't aware of BK. Kelso - or the source of Kelso - could well be making them for Pike, as a number of other companies have done. Aero used to work with Levis (though I get the impression they're too busy with their own operation nowadays to have time to produce for a third party), SB do a lot of stuff for other labels, and so on.

    Very significantly cheaper than the equivalent model seems to be on the BK website, for sure.
     
  15. Monitor

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    This is the only jacket I want!

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    Famous TFL Last Words.
     
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    Love the breast pocket shape on this trucker (addict clothes)

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  18. red devil

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    Wherever the BK jackets are made is a total mystery. Do they have "made in" tag in the jackets?

    Sorry for asking again, but can you recap what are the rules regarding country of manufacture? You can have most of a jacket made wherever in the world and then bring them here in the UK for example, sew in a few tags and claim "made in the UK"?
     
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    Wasn't it established they're made in Pakistan?
     
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    Currently there are no clear rules in the UK on this. There's no direct requirement in terms of consumer protection. There are several campaigns on this, with varying motivations from environmentalists who want to reduce airmiles by 'buying local' to the obvious, more unpleasant strains of nationalism and all points in between, but government at least in the last decade has favoured more "voluntary" approaches rather than creating a standardised approach or definition. It is affected indirectly by trading regulations which require a manufacturing label for the purposes of tracing appropriate taxes and such, but there's no need for that to be prominent in the same way as EU-originated law now requires for composition of textiles and such. It is perfectly legal, for example, to have a small label on the inside seam of a shirt or jacket saying "Made in China", while the main label at the neck might say "Designed in the UK", or "Styled in the UK", or "Made with Italian Horsehide" or some such. There's no clear distinction between products which receive only a final finish or assembly in the UK, and products which are made start to finish in the UK, or any point in between. In terms of the trade rules, manufacture or place where 'substantial value' is added seem to be the key issues, but "Made in the UK" seems to encompass final assembly of foreign-made parts.

    The oddest one I've ever seen was a Nigel Cabourn sheepskin jacket being sold with both "Made in Scotland" (By Alexander Leathers / Simmons Bilt) and NC's standard branding "Nigel Cabourn Made In England" prominently on it. Rather confused to say the least!

    Personally, I'd like to see a standard applied to clothing in the same way as the recent EU Regulations (in force now in the UK as they came in within the transition period which runs until Dec 31st 2020) on certain foodstuffs. Those regulations allow for 'manufactured in UK' as the place where the food items were made, but if prominent / significant / core ingredients were grown or made abroad, that too must be labelled. I think it would be worth having a clear requirement that a garment be labelled for point of manufacture (i.e. where sewn together) and origin of materials. Thus Aero, for example, with a jacket made from Vicenza would be:

    "Jacket manufactured in Scotland" or "Jacket manufactured in UK" plus "Horsehide tanned in Italy"

    Inevitably, if you make these things too complicated for manufacturers it hurts small businesses, but there's got to be a reasonable balance between that and consumer protection. I suspect most of the sort of places we round here want to buy from like Aero or Thedi or Lewis or whomever aren't going to have a problem with all of this as they generally already do, these things being relevant to our market. At the wider level I'm not opposed to overseas manufacturing on everything (as long as their staff receive a respectable, living wage commensurate to their skill and the local economy), but I would, to be honest, have reservations about paying a 'UK manufacture' price where that is not being passed on to the workforce. When it comes to clothing especially ethical production is important to me - knowing the sourcing of both materials and manufacturing labour are both sound is an important part of that.



    AVI were - they were outed by the manufacturer themselves, who proceeded to sell them on Ebay at a third of the AVI price, which is possibly why we've not heard of AVI recently!

    BK were suspected of manufacturing outside Greece, but I don't think there was ever any definitive answer one way or the other.
     
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