Kirk H.
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Bob I will say Webley....RIC ? with 3-4" barrel.
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Renault
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Bingo! We have a winner! In really nice condition!!!
About 5" barrel.
Well done Kirk!
About 5" barrel.
Well done Kirk!
Kirk H.
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Thanks Bob. What caliber is it? I have not seen one with the longer barrel. I have always seen the "Snub nosed" CID model. And BTW great find
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Renault
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.450 Adams centerfire. I like to say the old phrase "450 Boxer"! Sounds cooler. Like "needle gun".
Older lady brought in a bunch of relics. Like Khyber pass pistols made out of Martini Henry actions. Astra 600 she brought in was loaded!
Older lady brought in a bunch of relics. Like Khyber pass pistols made out of Martini Henry actions. Astra 600 she brought in was loaded!
pompier
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Very nice indeed......
Must be nice to have stuff like that come to you. Good catch, nice to see it's going to a good home. Does appear to be in pretty good condition. Now you just need another one to walk in the store to make a pair.
Must be nice to have stuff like that come to you.
Good catch, nice to see it's going to a good home. Does appear to be in pretty good condition. Now you just need another one to walk in the store to make a pair.
Renault
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I believe the pair that Custer allegedly had at LBH were .442 centerfire.
MikePotts
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My Mother's mother travelled in ox carts through South Africa with a 'composed pair' of those (one a Webley, the other a Belgian equiv.) in the very early 1900's .
We had them (illegally) in U.K. until something compelled my father to hand them in during an 'amnesty' in the early 70's.....:eusa_doh:
We had them (illegally) in U.K. until something compelled my father to hand them in during an 'amnesty' in the early 70's.....:eusa_doh:
Renault
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Hardest part yesterday was telling her she would have to get the MP 28 out of the shop. I'm sure she has already turned it in to the local authorities by now. She had an eclectic hodgepodge of relics.
Joao Encarnado
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Gotta envy this... the easy of getting a gun...
MikePotts
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In the US anything manufactured prior to 1898 isn't even legally considered a gun!
Joao Encarnado
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So even I not being American could buy a "original" winchester 1873?
Here even guns considered old (must read the bill for the correct year) needs licence to own.
It's a complicated legal issue as to who can buy what firearm, and how. There are Federal laws/rules that have to be followed, and also overlapping State Laws. There are questions on the Federal form which you have to fill out to buy a firearm from a Federally-licensed dealer that deal with citizenship status, but being a US citizen I pretty much pay little attention to them. I do answer the questions, since I have to, but I am hesitant to quote the details from memory.
This applies to firearms bought from a Federally-licensed dealer.
Rules for private sales between individuals are regulated on a State-by-State basis. In Tennessee, I can buy from a fellow state resident with no restrictions and be in perfect compliance with the law. I did exactly that last weekend and bought a S&W revolver made in 1907.
If you were not a citizen of my State you would not be legally able to buy a firearm directly from a Tennessee resident, apart from Federal law.
In other States the rules may be totally different and may require other legal steps. I don't want to violate the no-politics rule, but just as an observation the State laws tend to follow the political tendencies of the various States.
As for antiques, if a firearm was actually made prior to 1899 it's considered an antique and the rules for selling or shipping those are less strict. However, a modern replica of an antique type is treated as a modern firearm. (Uberti 1873 vs. Winchester 1873)
This applies to firearms bought from a Federally-licensed dealer.
Rules for private sales between individuals are regulated on a State-by-State basis. In Tennessee, I can buy from a fellow state resident with no restrictions and be in perfect compliance with the law. I did exactly that last weekend and bought a S&W revolver made in 1907.
If you were not a citizen of my State you would not be legally able to buy a firearm directly from a Tennessee resident, apart from Federal law.
In other States the rules may be totally different and may require other legal steps. I don't want to violate the no-politics rule, but just as an observation the State laws tend to follow the political tendencies of the various States.
As for antiques, if a firearm was actually made prior to 1899 it's considered an antique and the rules for selling or shipping those are less strict. However, a modern replica of an antique type is treated as a modern firearm. (Uberti 1873 vs. Winchester 1873)
Joao Encarnado
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That is why I quoted original, as been made before 1899.
pompier
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Renault
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Yes. No I did t get there in time for a pic.
You would be amazed at the things I've seen come thru the shop.
You would be amazed at the things I've seen come thru the shop.
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MikePotts
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After a few brief stints in retail gun stores, the most wonderful stuff comes in wrapped in a towel carried by an old lady.
Joao Encarnado
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What kind of shop do you own?
Renault
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Joao,
I'm retired and sometimes assist repair staff at a local sporting goods shop. I'm not the owner of the shop, just a helper.
Stuff I've seen walk in the shop in the past.
Chauchats, Maxims, Reising SMG,s, Mauser Anti-tank rifles, SG-44's, Auto-burglars, Beretta MP38, and a wide assortment of shoulder-stocked pistols. That's all I can remember as of now.
This is for over 30 years.
I'm retired and sometimes assist repair staff at a local sporting goods shop. I'm not the owner of the shop, just a helper.
Stuff I've seen walk in the shop in the past.
Chauchats, Maxims, Reising SMG,s, Mauser Anti-tank rifles, SG-44's, Auto-burglars, Beretta MP38, and a wide assortment of shoulder-stocked pistols. That's all I can remember as of now.
This is for over 30 years.
Joao,
Those machine-guns and submachine-guns open up a whole different and bigger set of legal issues concerning firearms ownership in the US.
It is legal, if allowed by the law in your own State, to buy a fully-automatic weapon (machine gun). However, it has to be what is called "transferable", which means that it has been previously and properly registered with the Federal government.
After having located such a weapon that you would like to buy, which will likely cost $15 -20,000 (or more), you have to get your local Chief of Police to sign a form saying that you are not a criminal and have no criminal intent for purchase of the firearm. Then you send the application to buy the firearm to the Federal government for further background checks. You also have to pay a $200 tax to the Federal government and send two sets of fingerprints and two sets of photos of yourself.
At that point you have to wait several months to get final approval. At that point you can take possession (transfer) of the firearm. (Having already paid the previous owner a large sum of money, of course...)
A machine-gun without proper registration is considered contraband and anyone possessing one is subject to up to 10 years in Federal prison.
Renault - I assume you tell the widows who walk in with their deceased husband's Thompson that they brought back from Iwo Jima to see a good lawyer. and then see the BATF (in that order).
Those machine-guns and submachine-guns open up a whole different and bigger set of legal issues concerning firearms ownership in the US.
It is legal, if allowed by the law in your own State, to buy a fully-automatic weapon (machine gun). However, it has to be what is called "transferable", which means that it has been previously and properly registered with the Federal government.
After having located such a weapon that you would like to buy, which will likely cost $15 -20,000 (or more), you have to get your local Chief of Police to sign a form saying that you are not a criminal and have no criminal intent for purchase of the firearm. Then you send the application to buy the firearm to the Federal government for further background checks. You also have to pay a $200 tax to the Federal government and send two sets of fingerprints and two sets of photos of yourself.
At that point you have to wait several months to get final approval. At that point you can take possession (transfer) of the firearm. (Having already paid the previous owner a large sum of money, of course...)
A machine-gun without proper registration is considered contraband and anyone possessing one is subject to up to 10 years in Federal prison.
Renault - I assume you tell the widows who walk in with their deceased husband's Thompson that they brought back from Iwo Jima to see a good lawyer. and then see the BATF (in that order).
