Stetson crest dating

[Joao Encarnado]

Really nice.

 

[fedoracentric]

Is that a Stetson Panama, Dinerman?

 

[Dinerman]

Yep. An old Montecristi.

 

[fedoracentric]

It seems to me that Stetson kept using the two griffin logo until maybe the early 20s. But less and less in the teens and 20s in favor of the beaver-griffin version we are all more familiar with. At least by the 30s it seems they switched permanently to the version we are familiar with.

It's too bad we really have few pre 1900 Stetsons to look at for this sort of stuff.

 

[alanfgag]

another thread from yesteryear.

 

[splintercellsz]

1920s/30s

1920s

1900s

1920s

1920s

 

[fedoracentric]

This from the "Dating Stetsons by Crest" thread....
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?40021-Stetson-crest-dating

This EXTREMELY historically important advertisement for Stetson crests is from an American Hatter Publication from Dec 1894.

Thanks for posting this originally, Bill.

 

[fedoracentric]

A few more....

This in a U.S. campaign hat from 1911.


These two from the dating Stetsons by crest thread...

An early western...



This from an early Canadian-made Stetson...

 

[Matthewlawson3]

Stetson logos

Guys, I have two, as far as I know, modern Stetson Saxon Royal fedoras. One is midnight blue and the other is Cordova. They both have a different type of Stetson logo on the underside of the crown inside...what does this mean? Is one newer than the other?

 

[fedoracentric]

Stetson logs changed frequently, but for most of the time since the 30s there seems to have been two main ones. Still, it depends on what you have. There were a lot of different ones from different eras.

 

[Joao Encarnado]

Better to show some pictures.

 

[Matthewlawson3]

Better to show some pictures.

Here are some pictures. The Stetson Saxon Cordova is the one with the Golden Crest and the Saxon Midnight is the other crest.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn56y4c432zs8hz/2014-08-14 16.32.11.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g73ujgywtx2usje/2014-08-14 16.32.05.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mimlenc4pin4lr1/2014-08-14 16.31.07.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3yj6h3ist6b03s/2014-08-14 16.31.39.jpg

 

[alanfgag]

Two variations on the Real Nutria Fur mark - older version is on top.

 

[FedoraFan112390]

I know the hat I've just bought is post '52 due to the comments in this thread, but can anyone help me narrow down the date further?

 

[buler]

Nice Clear Nutria tip logo in a Stetson derby that just sold. Including the sweatmark also.

B

 

[barrowjh]

Here is an Imperial w/Suede Finish, a date stamped in the sweatband of Feb 16, 1949. The crest on the sweatband has the field of dots in the upper left box, as per Dinerman's original post.


The dated side -


The hat -


To the extent this hat may also be useful for other 'dating' threads I will post it there also; not often we find one with a date stamp!

 

[VintageEveryday]

Post '52?

 

[VintageEveryday]

Update: stars on the logo: pre '52.

 

[BobHufford]

I’ve seen a few ‘70s era *** Clubs that still used a crest with the stars. Maybe they kept that tooling around from the ‘50s. ??

 

[alanfgag]

I’ve seen a few ‘70s era *** Clubs that still used a crest with the stars. Maybe they kept that tooling around from the ‘50s. ??

I am not a student of Stetson after 1950, but I've always been dubious of the stars and maple leaf dating algorithm. By the 1970s, a lot was in ruins.