Summer Hat Suggestions?

Discussion in 'Hats' started by jazzncocktails, Mar 8, 2009.

  1. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    I went ahead and ordered a pearl teardrop Milan from Miller Hats and a Stetson Retro from Delmonico Hatters. That, with my panama from last year, should get me through while I keep trolling eBay.
     
  2. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    BTW, has anyone else bought a Panama from The Panama Hat Company of St. Augustine (www.perfectpanamas.com)? I bought one from them last year, and I like it a lot.
     
  3. Bob Smalser

    Bob Smalser One of the Regulars

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    Bailey's Logging Supply in California and Tennessee sells the old, while cotton flat caps favored by loggers until hard hats became mandatory. I can't think of a cooler, more comfortable cap, even among Panamas. Washable, but I buy three new ones every year so I always have a fresh one for dressup. These are excellent quality. And at $6.95, it's hard to go too far astray.

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    http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=75000+LG&catID=121
     
  4. Lefty

    Lefty I'll Lock Up

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    I haven't purchased from them, but I've been to the shop and handled the hats. From what I saw, they sell a quality product.

    Check out this thread for photos of the shop.
     
  5. Forgotten Man

    Forgotten Man One Too Many

    When it comes to warm weather, I break out the ol' Boater!

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    Or a linen newsboy cap! That's always nice.

    Panama hats are always a good choice too! I have a vintage one that I need to restore... will be some time before that happens.
     
  6. Woodfluter

    Woodfluter Practically Family

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    Cardelo and John in Covina - love to ya both!

    Leaving aside regional differences, and hearkening back to the original question, I think the issue of hat color is way overplayed.

    I sure don't want to take up airspace in this setting, but interested parties might do some research with the keywords "black body radiation". Many diurnal desert animals have dark or black dorsal coloration; some Bedouins who spent (or spend) most of their time in the open and exposed to the sun have worn black wool garments.

    Cutting to the chase:
    (1) If the garment has low insulation value and will be in contact with your skin, lighter may be better. Conduction is the key element here.
    (2) Otherwise (usual for hats) it's a wash - because convection and re-radiation counteract the differences. I've worn light tan and black hats in the hot western sun, and I sure can't tell any difference!

    Sorry for playing the scientist here, but I can't help myself. From experiential evidence, I side with John in Covina - how you wear and manage your headwear, and the relative humidity factor, trumps most other considerations.

    = Bill

    P.S. Lefty, your Optimo milan is fantastic. I think the ribbon is perfect. Might you share the approximate cost?
     
  7. carldelo

    carldelo One Too Many

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    Hey Dave

    I meant to post this, but couldn't find it until now. It's a black straw derby, if you can believe it. I think it would fit right in with the situation you describe - formal in shape and color, but cooler in construction. If this came in XXL I'd have one, but no luck for me - maybe it would work for you...

    http://www.thefedorastore.com/Bailey-Quay-Straw-Merrick-Derby-Bowler-Hat-p/2008.htm
     
  8. panama jack

    panama jack One of the Regulars

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    Gilgamark,
    I bought a Stetson Retro from Delmonico's last summer. I only live 30 minutes from the place.
    I didn't want to spend a lot being this was my first fedora/straw hat. I thought I would work my way up to something of better quality once I got use to seeing myself in a hat.
    It's a really nice hat for the price. I think you will like it.

    pj
     
  9. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    Thanks for the info. It's the style fedora I like.
     
  10. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    New Question

    Okay, Miller Hats is out of their pearl in everything except porkpies. They don't know when they'll get more. I changed my teardrop over to cocoa.

    So now I'm looking for a light grey straw hat. I want fedora style, probably teardrop bash. About 2 1/2 brim, 4 1/2 crown.

    Any suggestions?
     
  11. jazzncocktails

    jazzncocktails A-List Customer

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    Thanks for sharing those insights, Bill--very helpful. It could well be that the problem is psychological...we've always been told that darker equals hotter, whatever the material or its make-up. It'll be worth experimenting with this summer...
     
  12. xigxag

    xigxag New in Town

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    http://www.thefedorastore.com/Bailey-Billy-Stingy-Brim-Fedora-Mens-Dress-Hat-p/81670.htm


    Maybe this is something for you.[huh]
     
  13. RBH

    RBH Bartender

    They also had no more of the natural color in my size.
    I went for the cocoa too, I wonder what the grey looks like?
    I have to tell you I like the pearl I have, the blueish tint has grown on me and I think I can get some use out of it this summer.
     
  14. RBH

    RBH Bartender

  15. Woodfluter

    Woodfluter Practically Family

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    Your welcome, Jazz. I don't discount the psychological factor - I have a red wool Filson coat hanging up in this room, and it makes me feel warm just to look at it! I can turn down the thermostat 5 degrees. And my light-colored straws make me feel cool :cool2:
     
  16. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    Your photo of your pearl made me want one. I wanted a light gray anyway, but your pic looked great.

    The gray looked a little dark to me. The customer service rep I spoke to also said it's dark. Previous discussion on this thread notwithstanding, I'm not sure I want a darker hat during a Tennessee summer. I'm not sure it would go with much of my lighter colored summer attire either.
     
  17. Gilgamark

    Gilgamark A-List Customer

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    I really like at least a 2 1/2 brim.
     
  18. kaosharper1

    kaosharper1 One Too Many

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    That's a big part of it. I have a black Akubra Sydney and it just doesn't feel right wearing it in the Summer in Pasadena where its sunny with no clouds and 90 degrees.
     
  19. CRH

    CRH Call Me a Cab

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    So, like, I haven't learned anything useful in this tread. What you need here in Iowa when it's 90 F and 90 hum. is a good Swoopy brim to cut through the thick air rain or shine! :D We wear bandanas under our brims and sweat bullets - seriously, I have to case the yard with old four legs before I mow to pick up the bullets I sweat out the last time...... seriously......we have laws you know. You could be charged with:

    "Accidental Use of a Lawnmower As a Firearm Within City Limits".
     

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