Fedoraguy, I just found out that it was you that got a hat that I had seen or so I understand it to be. If this is a private matter then just disregard this post but I have to say hands down that was the finest hat I ever seen period. I have seen a few 1000s of hats and many a fine one but never any thing as special as that one was. Would you care to post on it if I have got it correct and you are the person that got that INDY brown hat? I would not be so bold to ask if it was any ordinary hat but man that was one special hat I have seen a lot of belly beaver hats but that was the crem'e de la creme.