The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Dakota Ellison, Jan 25, 2004.

  1. Redfokker

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    Love this color! Nice lines.
     
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  2. Redfokker

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    Wading through this thread is making me feel better. Always love your finds Stefan, this one is sweet. My favorite color too.

    Wow! The lines of this one are superb Daniele. Can't wait to see the detail shots, looks rare for sure.
     
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  3. TheOldFashioned

    TheOldFashioned Practically Family

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    And then there was #4. Two in as many days from the same seller:
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    I decided to reach out to the seller after seeing the following in the description:
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    Speculation, yes, but after digging into Pil Poul it very well could likely be the best lead yet. They were a large, award winning operation in the early 20th century. Factory was damaged/closed during the German invasion of WWII. Briefly resurrected but soon closed after. The building is now part of a cultural center.
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    Additional photos can be found doing a Google search.

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  4. steur

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    It's a teaser for sure. Fantastic hat and I'm curious to see it next to its sibling the misto nebbia homburg. Hopefully soon.
     
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  5. steur

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    Thanks, Mike. Glad you're well enough to have a look here.
     
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  6. steur

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    Very intriguing part of Borsalino history. I have wondered if these could have been fakes, to cash in on the Borsalino brand name or legitimate licensed hats. Either way they are of interest. I had seen the brown one and was considering a bid on that one. This one seems in far less condition.
    Good detective work, Jonathan.
     
  7. Steve1857

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    Great research, Jonathan.

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  8. Dotneck

    Dotneck New in Town

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    Here is a beaver Borsalino that I recently acquired. This size 7 is a bit snug on my size 7 1/8 noggin. I'm thinking this hat looks like new. Any way to tell how old it could be?

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  9. Steve1857

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    Nice Borsalino, Dotneck. Show more photos, especially the hatliner and any labels under the sweatband. These will help with dating the hat.

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  10. Dotneck

    Dotneck New in Town

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    Here are a couple pics of the inside of the hat. There are no labels under the sweatband. In fact, it looks like the sweatband is scotch taped to the hat...

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  11. AbbaDatDeHat

    AbbaDatDeHat I'll Lock Up

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    Hell of a hat, guy!!!
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  12. Steve1857

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    Martora is the name of the animal on the liner. It's a marten or pine marten. Does it say anywhere that it's a beaver felt? I'd date the hat to the 50s, maybe early 60s. I'm sure folks who know more than me will comment soon. Great hat btw.

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  13. Dotneck

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    No it doesn't say beaver...I thought that was a picture of a beaver on the liner...
     
  14. Steve1857

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    No, it's a marten.

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  15. steur

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    What Steve writes is correct. First of all: welcome to the lounge and welcome to the Borsalino brotherhood. Those Martora liners are only known from this one store: Peluso in Napels. They are a bit of a specialty therefore and there are not many that have been posted here. Mid fifties to early sixties is most likely for it.
     
  16. NewJack

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    My contribution to this bevy of beautiful Borsas (I have this thing for using alliteration when I can :)) This piece is called "Biver" which, if I may take poetic license by assuming it means "Beaver." Not certain of the approximate dates of production (I'll leave that up to to pros like you!) However, it is a Taupe color, much lighter in weight than it appears, with a stretched brim length of 3 1/4 inches, material covered leather sweat, and oh, those gills! Matches well with my vintage olive green Canali Alpaca wool overcoat.

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  17. dkstott

    dkstott One of the Regulars

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    Kevin @ JJ hats posted a video of a 70's vintage hat. The video itself isn't all that interesting. But I thought this gold hat was

     
  18. Steve1857

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    That is really fantastic. I just want to stroke it.

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  19. Daniele Tanto

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    The hat is a real luxurius Borsalino and I really like it.
    "Biver" is the Italian pronunciation of beaver and I see on the paper tag it was made for the US market.
    "Condor" is the color and this model was rarely seen here in Italy, some unfinished, very similar was in a corner of the Borsalino factory during our visit (Steve and me) of some years ago.
    It is almost my size :rolleyes: and I have a little envy...
    Bellissimo!
     
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  20. deadlyhandsome

    deadlyhandsome I'll Lock Up

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    Borsalino Diamanté 2 1/8” brim. Only in Borsalino could a size 63 perfectly fit my 61.4 cm head. Great longer hair finish. It’s stingier than I normally prefer, but it’s a nice little hat.


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