The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Dakota Ellison, Jan 25, 2004.

  1. TheOldFashioned

    TheOldFashioned Practically Family

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  2. quikrick

    quikrick A-List Customer

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    On this chart yours would be "French Sizes"
     
  3. steur

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    Very nice looking hat. The most likely colour for this hat is called "mirtillo" (blueberry). There are other blue colours by them, but those are far more rare (like "cobalto" or "pervinca"). If the hat has a model designation it will be either on the sweatband or on a label inside the hat. Can't tell from just the pictures. The brim will hold its shape, but will not be as stiff as some American made hats.
     
  4. AbbaDatDeHat

    AbbaDatDeHat I'll Lock Up

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    Just saw this.
    Exquisite!!!
    And old. I’m in lust and love!!
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  5. AbbaDatDeHat

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    This is a very nice looking hat Guitar.
    I like the unusual ribbon treatment and the wide brim.
    I’m with @steur on the Mirtillo color. I’m looking at a Pervinca and it appears a little softer and slightly less rich. Imho
    Copy the size chart posted, you’ll use it a lot. Punti is the Italian term used for the French Size listing.
    Nice hats Sir.
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  6. AbbaDatDeHat

    AbbaDatDeHat I'll Lock Up

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    Ecosan in Pervinca.
    A very nice example of Borsalino quality.
    One of the “Twins”.
    Be well. Bowen
     
  7. steur

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  10. steur

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    Borsalino faunosca 39 in the colour china. Martora felt. This was the one that I traded with @Dotneck and I'm very grateful to him. Raw edge brim at almost 7cm and crown 11cm at the center dent. It's a beauty. Someone has been tinkering with it in the past though. Liner was taped and not sewn inside, which you just don't see with Borsalino. Maybe it was taken out at some point. The sweatband stitches are fragile and it may come loose from the reed here and there. The sweatband backseam shows a small gap as if someone has tried to stretch it. That doesn't detract anything from the hat though, because it is still magnificent.

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  11. Steve1857

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    Nice trade, Stefan. Despite its internal problems, it sure is one fine Borsalino. I can just see you under it. Looking forward to photos of you wearing it.

    Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk
     
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  12. Daniele Tanto

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    The Borsalino "Martora" have a remarkable simplicity and Peluso was their paladin in Naples, great competitor of Balbi, another great seller in the Neapolitan city with another genre of Borsalino models.
    Un gran bel cappello!!!
     
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  13. steur

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    Thank you, gentlemen! It is a very elegant looking hat; less is more.
     
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  14. steur

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    Another one for the brotherhood then.
    Borsalino Export Qualität gran lusso in misto gris fer in a size 61. Bound brim at 4,5cm and crown 10,5 cm at the center dent. Cloth ribbon called "Diba" on this one and it is unreeded with the corrugated construction in the front, which is quite unusual for European market hats. The felt is what you'd expect from Borsalino. As @Redfokker always says: embrace the stingy! Lightweight hat by the way at just 94 grams.

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  15. dkstott

    dkstott One of the Regulars

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    Umm, As much as I'd like to take credit for the trade, but it wasn't me that you traded hats with. . But it was still a good trade.

     
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    Thanks for pointing that out. It was @Dotneck who was kind enough to trade this one with me. Messed that up in the posting. Corrected now.
     
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    Recent drop-in...'Nuff said...

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  18. Scooterz

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    My first Borsalino. It seems a lot like my Dobbs Cross Country in terms of the felt quality and overall lightness. Any info this model/style hat would be appreciated.


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    Is Luzzi the Hat shop?
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    What does this tag signify?
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  19. TheOldFashioned

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    Congrats on your first Borsalino and welcome to the Brotherhood!

    Regarding some of your questions, yes, Luzzi is the retailer. "Castagna" in the lower left of the tag is the felt color. The dash in the middle signifies the ribbon is the same color. "Celesca" in the lower right is the model name of the hat. The "6" is Punti sizing, equivalent to a 7-3/8 (59). Borsalino hats are notoriously difficult to date but I think the vertical script on the far left of the tag was used no later than the early 50s. Given the Roman shop and Punti sizing I would assume this was an Italian market hat.

    Here is the only other example of a Celesca that I was able to find on TFL, sported by @mayserwegener.

    Fellow European members @Daniele Tanto and/or @steur are probably the most knowledgeable on Borsalino's, so they could probably tell you some more.
     
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  20. Scooterz

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    Thanks!
     
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