Toppers Unite

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Garrett, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. Welcome to the Lounge Santa!

    The fit seems proper to me. If you look at vintage ads and photos from the era you’ll see that many hats were worn higher on the head (especially noticeable with top hats and boaters). You wear it well!

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  2. Koechinggendoet

    Koechinggendoet Familiar Face

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    Great Found steve!i love that tighter rolled brim
     
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  3. Koechinggendoet

    Koechinggendoet Familiar Face

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    Thats not too bad santa,like the picture bob send to you,if you can,get the hat more dead straight rather than a little bit tilted,and you look like the picture bob send! Just need a frock coat
     
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  4. Idaho Santa

    Idaho Santa New in Town

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    Thank you kind sir! I'm so happy that I can still wear this for my wedding. I'm just not used to the fit I guess. I didn't want to look like a fool for my wife to be. I suppose that if I would consider changing roles, I could shave the beard and start reciting, Do not pass go!
     
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  5. Idaho Santa

    Idaho Santa New in Town

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    I plan on wearing this with a morning coat for my wedding. I love the classic look.
     
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  6. Koechinggendoet

    Koechinggendoet Familiar Face

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    Great! My best wishes for the both of you:):):)
     
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  7. steur

    steur

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    Looks fine in my book. That is a lovely topper you've found yourself. I can see however that you'd want to sit it a bit lower on your head. As others have pointed out stiff hats can't be sized, but the fit can be tweaked somewhat. I've had the same issue with a bowler hat recently. It was shaped as a round oval and wouldn't fit front to back, but left room side to side. In the past the hatters made use of the conformateur and formillion to get a stiff hat to a perfect fit. The hat had to be heated to get the formillion inside. There are several ways of doing that. The hat could be heated in an oven, but I wouldn't risk slipping in a nice topper like that in an oven just to find out what settings I'd need to use. Another way of doing it was the use of a special hat heater like this one.
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    But good luck finding one of these somewhere. And a final option is to try and soften the entry of the hat using steam (which is what I did when I had this problem). You only need to soften the parts of the hat that need to flex to get it to conform better to your head shape. In my case it needed to be more of a long oval, which meant the front and back needed to be narrower. You can only reshape the hat that way a little though because the brim could deform otherwise.
    Again: I think you can wear that hat as it is and look great, but if you would want to tweak it, that's the advice I can give.
     
  8. Koechinggendoet

    Koechinggendoet Familiar Face

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    I Wouldnt reccomending steam because the heat was not focused on one point,unlike a special hat oven and a electric heater can do,and from the picture is just fine santa,just if you can get it more dead straight rather than tilted
     
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  9. steur

    steur

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    Very cool find, Steve. And another topper added;)
     
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  10. Steve1857

    Steve1857 I'll Lock Up

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    That is a very nice topper you found for your wedding, Santa. I agree with Bob, it sits as a top hat would back in the day. I wouldn't tweak a thing.

    Hope you and your bride to be have a wonderful day. Remember to post some photos of the happy occassion with you in all your finery.

     
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  11. Steve1857

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    Thanks Steve. Sadly, the other top hat is not a Borchert. However, it is a very nice Austrian made one. I'm going to post photos later, if I can. The FL seems to be extra slow at responding today.

     
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  12. Steve1857

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    The second top hat of this last week.

    Fanz Gulder of Wien made for a store close to the main street where I used to live in Copenhagen. Obviously, the store is sadly long gone.

    Interestingly, the hat came with another label of a more well known Danish hat manufacturer. The label must have belonged to another hat, but I was happy to get it.

    It's a size 59, so far too big for me. I'm willing to let it go if anyone is interested. IMG_20210408_165023.jpg IMG_20210408_164839.jpg IMG_20210408_162302.jpg IMG_20210408_162353.jpg IMG_20210408_202558.jpg
     
  13. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    That is a very nice looking hat, Steve.

     
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  14. Steve1857

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    Thanks, Randy. It is indeed. Wish it was my size.

     
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    Steve, Thanks! I am experiencing the same slow down.
     
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    Steve, Super I will have to check my lists for Franz Gulder.
     
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  17. Steve1857

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    Thanks Steve. I haven't been able to find anything about Franz Gulder apart from his top hats seem to have been well liked in Danish hat shops a 100 years ago or so. There have been a few put on sale on various Danish web-sites.

     
  18. Steve1857

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    Thanks for that Steve.

    The listing must mean that Franz Gulder's widow (witwe) took over the business. I wouldn't think it would list him as a widower (witwer).

    Interestingly enough, A.F. Bodecker's widow did the same thing in Denmark. He's a very interesting Swedish/Danish hat maker and seller, btw. Born in Sweden, learnt his trade in Denmark, Germany, and France during the democratic revolutions in Europe during the mid 1800s.

    I found a very interesting pdf booklet about him. It's in Danish, so not much point in sharing on the FL.
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  19. Mean Eyed Matt

    Mean Eyed Matt Practically Family

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    Steve, your London hat manufacturer logo looks to me very much like it is based on the Lincoln - Bennett logo....
     
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