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What jacket is this?

skyline99

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Hello there! I’m looking to see if anyone can identify this jacket I found at an estate sale. The talon hardware and style suggests 1930s but I’d appreciate if an expert could confirm or if anyone knows what brand it could be based on the pattern.
 

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jchance

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For a fee, I can help identify that $5k currently-listed jacket ^.^

Or you can use @tmitchell59 ‘s service
 

tmitchell59

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I saw this jacket on ebay. It is a rather non-descript half-belt, the back is rather plain. The zipper dates to the mid 40s.

You see these crazy BIN prices all the time. If you don't know the value, then why make one up? Just run an auction and take what you get.

This silly approach does not fool anyone. There are tons of this on ebay. They just sit there. Some are interesting jackets and would do well at auction, but they sit there with a BIN that no one will buy. I don't get it.
 

AeroFan_07

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^^Absolutely.

I have done very well with jackets (and boots) on ebay starting with $0.99 7-day no reserve auctions. Sure, once in a while you get one that just does not move, but if you provide good photos & full dimensions & details of what you know, the market audience will determine the value. I may often try them a while at what I believe is a fair price, and if they do not sell, but have watchers, convert to a low-starting point auction and let it go.
 

ABCD

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Too bad the sleeves are too short for you. I'm sure otherwise you would have worn the jacket with pride.

I'll give you some information but I doubt it'll advance your sale.

I've seen this particular Horsehide label before, used on early 50s Excelled motorcycle jackets. So this might be a 40s Excelled.

Please add this information to your listing and remove the silly Hercules, Aero and Buco references.

Later Excelled jackets are known for their mediocre quality.

With the collar being worn through, I'd say your jacket is worth about $150-$200 at best.

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Jon Crow

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I saw this jacket on ebay. It is a rather non-descript half-belt, the back is rather plain. The zipper dates to the mid 40s.

You see these crazy BIN prices all the time. If you don't know the value, then why make one up? Just run an auction and take what you get.

This silly approach does not fool anyone. There are tons of this on ebay. They just sit there. Some are interesting jackets and would do well at auction, but they sit there with a BIN that no one will buy. I don't get it.
Just lately I'm seeing tons of newbies here doing this, two were here discussing gambling sites yesterday
 

Jon Crow

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I saw this jacket on ebay. It is a rather non-descript half-belt, the back is rather plain. The zipper dates to the mid 40s.

You see these crazy BIN prices all the time. If you don't know the value, then why make one up? Just run an auction and take what you get.

This silly approach does not fool anyone. There are tons of this on ebay. They just sit there. Some are interesting jackets and would do well at auction, but they sit there with a BIN that no one will buy. I don't get it.
You can lead a horse to water and all that.....
 

Jon Crow

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^^Absolutely.

I have done very well with jackets (and boots) on ebay starting with $0.99 7-day no reserve auctions. Sure, once in a while you get one that just does not move, but if you provide good photos & full dimensions & details of what you know, the market audience will determine the value. I may often try them a while at what I believe is a fair price, and if they do not sell, but have watchers, convert to a low-starting point auction and let it go.
You've nailed it, what you believe is a fair price, not jumping on here and finding help to line your pockets
 

Jon Crow

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Too bad the sleeves are too short for you. I'm sure otherwise you would have worn the jacket with pride.

I'll give you some information but I doubt it'll advance your sale.

I've seen this particular Horsehide label before, used on early 50s Excelled motorcycle jackets. So this might be a 40s Excelled.

Please add this information to your listing and remove the silly Hercules, Aero and Buco references.

Later Excelled jackets are known for their mediocre quality.

With the collar being worn through, I'd say your jacket is worth about $150-$200 at best.

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200 bucks max not 5000 :D
 

ABCD

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@Biff42 it might be interesting to dive into the history of Excelled? The earliest Excelled jackets that I knew of are early 50s horsehide motorcycle jackets but the company might have been around longer?

Edit: typo
 
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ABCD

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"Founded in 1927, Excelled Sheepskin & Leather Coat Corporation is the undisputed leader in the leather industry, with total annual sales in excess of $80 million. Excelled manufactures and markets licensed collections for CHAPS, Columbia Sportswear, Stacy Adams and other top brands; produces men’s, women’s and children’s products under its own proprietary labels; successfully targets upscale markets through its joint venture with contemporary design team Reilly/Olmes; and conducts extensive business as a resource for private label, direct marketing and premium marketing. We offer drop-ship capabilities for all of our various in-stock lines which feature products priced from $40-$400; please contact me for additional information or a full catalog."

Their online catalog looks like it was last updated in 1992 lol.

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Jon Crow

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"Founded in 1927, Excelled Sheepskin & Leather Coat Corporation is the undisputed leader in the leather industry, with total annual sales in excess of $80 million. Excelled manufactures and markets licensed collections for CHAPS, Columbia Sportswear, Stacy Adams and other top brands; produces men’s, women’s and children’s products under its own proprietary labels; successfully targets upscale markets through its joint venture with contemporary design team Reilly/Olmes; and conducts extensive business as a resource for private label, direct marketing and premium marketing. We offer drop-ship capabilities for all of our various in-stock lines which feature products priced from $40-$400; please contact me for additional information or a full catalog."

Their online catalog looks like it was last updated in 1992 lol.

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1992 haha yep long time ago
 

Jon Crow

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"Founded in 1927, Excelled Sheepskin & Leather Coat Corporation is the undisputed leader in the leather industry, with total annual sales in excess of $80 million. Excelled manufactures and markets licensed collections for CHAPS, Columbia Sportswear, Stacy Adams and other top brands; produces men’s, women’s and children’s products under its own proprietary labels; successfully targets upscale markets through its joint venture with contemporary design team Reilly/Olmes; and conducts extensive business as a resource for private label, direct marketing and premium marketing. We offer drop-ship capabilities for all of our various in-stock lines which feature products priced from $40-$400; please contact me for additional information or a full catalog."

Their online catalog looks like it was last updated in 1992 lol.

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Biff42

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@Biff42 it might be interesting to dive into the history of Excelled? The earliest Excelled jackets that I knew of are early 50s horsehide motorcycle jackets but the company might have been around longer?

Edit: typo
Yes, they have been around since 1927 and are still going. It's pretty incredible when you think about all the manufacturers that have come and gone during that time. Once again, the leather jacket community owes a huge debt to Jewish immigrants who came to the USA from Europe and brought their manufacturing skills. The Goldmans came from Poland or Russia, depending on the sources I found.

The founder, Sol Goldman, ran the company with his brother Sam, and they were eventually joined by Sol's son Myron , who died in 2021. Based on the obituary, Myron's son Bill is running things today.

I couldn't find much vintage advertising for the brand, but there's plenty of modern-day ads and articles from the last 20 years. All that said, I'd love to see more of their jackets from the 30's/40's/50's.

Below are a few articles I dug up from way back. It's interesting how jacket-making was seasonal back then.at least for these sheepskin coats.

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