What's the Banjo wearing?

[Ephraim Tutt]

Is it a fedora or a beat up homburg?

On Sherlock that is....on the right

 

[avedwards]

It could be either, but a film in which Holmes wears sunglasses and a beard I don't think it matters as it is a bad interpretation of him. For the most book accurate Holmes (not Watson) see Basil Rathbone's "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" because unlike the other films he plays in it's set in the Victorian period and his costumes are very much like what Holmes would have worn, as are all the character's for that matter. Regardless of what people say of Rathbone, in that film he looks, dresses and acts as Homes does in the original stories.

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

Hail to Basil

 

[avedwards]

Wrong film but right actor. In the film you showed ("The House of Fear" I believe) he isn't wearing Victorian costume as it's set in the 1940s. In "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" he wears appropriate Victorian costume. However, in all his films he looks just like Sidney Paget's illustrations which is why I think he qualifies as the best Holmes IMO as well as his amazing Holmes voice. Of course others may disagree and say Brett but I never really liked him but then everyone can have their opinions.

 

[avedwards]

Rathbone looking more book accurate.

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

I was trying to find him in something other than a deerstalker.
Isn't that Dr Watson with him?

 

[avedwards]

It is Dr Watson, also in a topper.

As for the deerstalker, all of the Rathbone films made by Universal (set in the 1940s) have the deerstalker absent as they wanted to modernise the character, though in "The Voice of Terror" he tries to put his deerstalker on and it stopped by Watson saying "you promised". In these films he wears a felt fedora in the first four and a tweed fedora in the rest, which was a nod towards the deerstalker but keeping it appropriate for the 1940s setting.

In the films made by Fox which are set in the correct Victorian period he wears a top hat, a bowler and a deerstalker only when in an appropriate setting. In the picture I put above he wears a top hat which is appropriate for the era and the location (London).

 

[Lokar]

I'm aware that some people (especially on the Lounge, it seems) are not a fan of the Brett Holmes, and his wardrobe rarely varied after the first 10 episodes, but he (and the cast in general) were dressed very accurately - frock coats, top frocks, top hats, bowlers, homburgs, caps & deerstalkers when appropriate.

The Brett production even had at least one scene in almost every episode that was as close to an exact reproduction of an original drawing by Sidney Paget as possible, many of them including pictures of Holmes & Watson in clothing - You can't get much more accurate than that!

The amount of Holmes programmes where the actor portraying Holmes just wears a black suit is shocking. Frock coats were still very much "in", then.

 

[Woodfluter]

Returning from Holmes to Homburgs:

Over on the German Hutmacher thread Dreispitz has supplied the following very helpful information:
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That's earlier than we thought. So, 29 August 1882 marks the birth of the homburg as we know it!

Folks, we need to declare 29 August FL Homage to Homburg Day!! So...2 days till Homburg Birthday!

Wow Ephraim, we now have a tentative (since it is Wiki after all) but firm date, and Edward VII + Kaiser Wilhelm + Hutfabrik Ph. Möckel to thank. We ought to tell the folks following the Homburg thread before the 29th.

The cited article also noted that it rapidly displaced the Zylinder (top hat) and Melone (bowler) in popularity. The Germans just cut to the chase with those names!

Der Homburger Hut...could be a fast-hat drive in.



"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Homburger today!"

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

Returning from Holmes to Homburgs:



Wow Ephraim, we now have a tentative (since it is Wiki after all) but firm date, and Edward VII + Kaiser Wilhelm + Hutfabrik Ph. Möckel to thank. We ought to tell the folks following the Homburg thread before the 29th.

The cited article also noted that it rapidly displaced the Zylinder (top hat) and Melone (bowler) in popularity. The Germans just cut to the chase with those names!

Der Homburger Hut...could be a fast-hat drive in.



"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Homburger today!"

Bill, as the lawyer on Boston Legal says - "You're a hoot, that's what you are!"

I've advised the good citizens of the Homburg thread of all our discoveries in the hope that lovers of Homburgs will want to celebrate the birthday of their favourite lid!

 

[Woodfluter]

Saw you posted to the Homburg Nation about the upcoming celebratory event, Mr. Tutt. Good!

By the way, J. Wellington Wimpy is holding a rather reduced photo of my newly acquired (and only thus far) Dobbs homburg, an e-Bay bargain which turned out to be in excellent condition. I should show it off on one of these threads but have been busy.

- Bill

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

Well now Bill, the chance to show off that sweet Dobbs homburger may present itself on the Happy Birthday Homburg thread come Saturday.

Who'da thought that dear ol' Banjo Paterson would have lead us on such a trip through history and far flung lands.