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Ava Gardner: The Secret Conversations

scotrace

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I just finished this book, which has an interesting backstory.
In the late 1980's, Gardner had a series of small strokes, which left her seriously paralyzed. She spent a great deal of hard work in therapy and recovered most movement, except for one arm and one side of her face. For one of the most beautiful women who ever lived, it was an exceptionally terrible blow.
She found herself in need of cash. Sinatra helped a bit, but she hit on the idea of hiring a ghost writer to do her memoirs. Peter Evans agreed, and through many months of meetings, interviews and middle of the night telephone conversations, he had almost enough to finish.
And then she got word from Sinatra that he had once sued Evans and wouldn't trust him. Gardner called the whole thing off and forbid the book's publication, which her estate kept to after her death in 1990.
Fast forward to 2014, and Evans still has all these stranded notes and no book and hasn't received any money from the work. He asked the estate for the green light to publish a book about the process of creating the unpublished autobiography. They agreed.
The result is just plain weird. Bits of a bio, interspersed with lots of padding and stretching. We clearly see that Gardner had things she wanted kept private, yet here we are, reading about them. Not huge revelations, but certainly things a woman of her generation wouldn't normally discuss, even in a tell-all bio to raise quick cash.
Evans himself died suddenly before the book was finished.

Ava Gardner lived a fascinating life, and was a pretty strong woman-- "Sinatra in drag," as her sister called her.
 
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Sounds like the good stuff is not there. Who wants to read a book about how a not-published book was made, especially when you know that all the good stuff that kept the first book from being published is still being held back?

You wouldn't think a woman who said the most ribald thing ever (tops the Mae West quotes I know), when she described Frank Sinatra's "bravado" (look the quote up by Googling Gardner, Sinatra, pounds, quote), would be shy about anything.
 

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I read her autobiography Ava: My Story when I was in high school. It was really good. Her marriage to Sinatra was quite the stormy one. With two such strong personalities, it's not surprising. Still can't figure out how she went from Mickey Rooney to Sinatra, though!
 

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And Artie Shaw in between! Then there was Howard Hughes, George C Scott (who was, she said, a terrible, angry drunk who beat her up), etc.

The author spends way too much time trying to find a way to ask Ava about Sinatra's penis. Ask, or don't ask, but stop making me read about your weener quandary.
 
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...he author spends way too much time trying to find a way to ask Ava about Sinatra's penis. Ask, or don't ask, but stop making me read about your weener quandary.

What was there to ask, her one comment on it (see my post above) seems to have answered every question in the universe there could have been about it?
 

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My strongest impression after reading these biographies was that she was utterly fearless....water skiing to the set of Night of The Iguana,going off by herself to night spots in Moscow and my favorite,hosting a party in her room for some refuse disposal men who gave her a lift back to her hotel...Fabulous.
 
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Angus Forbes

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There's an Ava Gardner museum in Smithfield, North Carolina. Their presentation starts with a 20-minute film about her life. The collection includes lots of portraits, some of her costumes and dresses, personal items, gifts from Frank, and so forth. It's not the Louvre, but it's worth a visit if you're a fan.
 

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