How to Ruin a Perfectly Good Suit

[Jay]

I forgot another one of my favorites. The shirt comment reminded me... Nothing bothers me more than the shirt that has a neck that is atleast 2 sizes too big for the wearer. Sometimes you can see their undershirts when the top button is fastened!

 

[Strawberry]

I think long hair is cute with a suit. What I don't like to see is exaggerated shoulders.

 

[Wild Root]

I'll take those shoulders, you can keep the hippy locks!lol

=WR=

 

[Sir Dobbs]

Shoes

Would you consider these shoes to be inappropriate with a standard suit?

 

[Jay]

What would they be appropriate with?

 

[carebear]

What would they be appropriate with?

Exactly, the soles are too big and clunky to wear with dress clothing, but the spectator look is too dressy for casual.

The soles really don't "go" with anything and ruin the shoe, they belong on boots, not shoes.

 

[Sir Dobbs]

Exactly, the soles are too big and clunky to wear with dress clothing, but the spectator look is too dressy for casual.

The soles really don't "go" with anything and ruin the shoe, they belong on boots, not shoes.

Can't the two looks cancel for something in-between?

 

[carebear]

Can't the two looks cancel for something in-between?

Something? .oO(...must...resist...straight line...)

I can't think of anything I'd wear them with anyway. The look would definitely be modern "style", not classic, and I don't think it would last.

 

[Sir Dobbs]

I must say any time I've worn them with a suit I've had nothing but positive remarks regarding them. I agree the soles are a bit large but I personally find the shoe fairly tasteful as a whole.

 

[McPeppers]

I actually like the style of the shoe...I'd prolly risk the life of the shoe and have it resoled with something less...huge... lol

 

[McPeppers]

Now that I look at it closely you could go with a very very very thin sole (non rubber) and completely save that dress shoe ^_-

 

[Senator Jack]

I've been going back over the thread and thought I'd make a few changes to the list. First, I removed the bad break because this really comes under tailoring and not personal taste. Similarly, I have not added low waist vs. high waist as that would come under tailoring too - unless one has bought a vintage suit, he's not really going to get trousers meant to be worn high. I have also not added the untucked shirt because what I had in mind here was a man who wants to look good, buys a well-made suit (whatever style he's had in mind), and then goes about killing his overall appearance in various ways. And while I believe it perfectly normal for a man to have long hair (the style does predate short hair) he should stick to a suit style that complements long hair, for I have seen men who looked rather stylish except for a rather unruly mop atop their head.

Of course, much of this subjective, but I believe this is a pretty good checklist.


1. Worn out shoes/overbearing shoes/wrong shoes for style and color
2. No pocket square (to me, this makes for an incomplete look)
3. Drooping socks
4. Pairing it with wrong hat
5. Incorrect buttoning for style of jacket
6. Tie too long or wide
7. Overstuffed pockets
8. Gadgets clipped to belt.
9. Open double-breasted jacket
10. Unkempt hair/beard/moustache
11. Overbearing/questionable accoutrements and jewelry (including the wearing of backbacks)

Any others that don't fall into the category of tailoring?


Regards,

Senator Jack

 

[carebear]

I must disagree with the distinguished Senator from New York.

8. Gadgets clipped to belt.

Is also a tailoring issue. Some folks' jobs require wearing things on their belts. Some folks have simply decided that they need such things. A properly fitted coat will cover a doctor's pager or salesman's Blackberry clipped on the belt worn in the hollow of their hip (3 or 5 o'clock position) far better than having that same pager producing a bulge in some pocket or another or that person having a bag looped over their shoulder. A little discretion in positioning is all it takes, so you don't look like Batman with your coat open.

I'm not sure what other trades require such carrying of "gadgets", but I know from personal experience that a good tailor can also adjust the fit of trouser and coat to accommodate the weapons of those who are required or choose to carry them. It shocked the heck out of me the first time I took off my jacket to get a sport coat fitted and the tailor tapped my gun and asked if I wore it there all the time so he could fit the coat around it properly.

 

[jamespowers]

I'll take those shoulders, you can keep the hippy locks!lol

=WR=

I can agree with that easily. Think George Reeves not Fabio. :eusa_doh:

Regards,

J

 

[Senator Jack]

8. Gadgets clipped to belt.

Yeah, Carebear, I'm rethinking this. But there has got to be a better way.

Regards,

Senator Jack

 

[jamespowers]

I forgot to mention hair adornments for men when they wear a suit. Scrunchy anyone? :rage:

Regards,

J

 

[Dinerman]

Would you consider these shoes to be inappropriate with a standard suit?

oh come on- they're doc martens.
They're comfortable!
go ahead and wear them if you want.

 

[carebear]

Yeah, Carebear, I'm rethinking this. But there has got to be a better way.

Regards,

Senator Jack

Shoe phones?

Ooh ooh wait, Dick Tracey wrist radios....

 

[Sir Dobbs]

oh come on- they're doc martens.
They're comfortable!
go ahead and wear them if you want.

Haha yes I agree they are extremely comfortable, and simply a spectactular choice for situations in which much walking is required.

 

[EL COLORADO]

I've been going back over the thread and thought I'd make a few changes to the list. First, I removed the bad break because this really comes under tailoring and not personal taste. Similarly, I have not added low waist vs. high waist as that would come under tailoring too - unless one has bought a vintage suit, he's not really going to get trousers meant to be worn high. I have also not added the untucked shirt because what I had in mind here was a man who wants to look good, buys a well-made suit (whatever style he's had in mind), and then goes about killing his overall appearance in various ways. And while I believe it perfectly normal for a man to have long hair (the style does predate short hair) he should stick to a suit style that complements long hair, for I have seen men who looked rather stylish except for a rather unruly mop atop their head.

Of course, much of this subjective, but I believe this is a pretty good checklist.


1. Worn out shoes/overbearing shoes/wrong shoes for style and color
2. No pocket square (to me, this makes for an incomplete look)
3. Drooping socks
4. Pairing it with wrong hat
5. Incorrect buttoning for style of jacket
6. Tie too long or wide
7. Overstuffed pockets
8. Gadgets clipped to belt.
9. Open double-breasted jacket
10. Unkempt hair/beard/moustache
11. Overbearing/questionable accoutrements and jewelry (including the wearing of backbacks)

Any others that don't fall into the category of tailoring?


Regards,

Senator Jack

Holy Cow Daddy-O! Youre Hardcore!
Heh heh.