Vintage Borsalino Erodispo

[CuratedCaps]

Hi everyone,

First post so I'm not sure if I've posted this in the right way or thread, please let me know if I need to post differently.

I recently came into possession of what appears to be a vintage Borsalino Erodispo, and it has turned into a bit of an obsession.

From the research I've done so far, I've managed to establish a few things (or at least I think I have!):

• It's an Erodispo model (the original paper model label is still under the liner).
• It was originally sold through Meyer Chapellerie in Solothurn, Switzerland, based on the retailer's stamp on the sweatband.
• It has the H and N pins on the sweatband. I've read these may be factory or production identifiers on older Borsalinos, but I'd love to know if that's actually correct.
• The yellow liner may actually be the original protective liner rather than a later replacement.
• My best guess is that it could date from Borsalino's golden era, possibly the 1950s, although I'd love to know whether the hat itself supports or disproves that.
• What I initially assumed was a broken string tucked behind the ribbon may actually be a wind trolley/wind cord. Is that correct, and if so, does its presence help date the hat?

I've attached plenty of photos because I'm hoping someone with more experience can tell me what I'm actually looking at.

Does anything immediately jump out to you?

Can the liner, sweatband, logo, stitching or construction help date it more accurately?

Is the Erodispo designation particularly desirable or unusual?

The more I research Borsalino, the more fascinating the history seems to become, so I'd really appreciate any thoughts from people who know these older hats.

Thanks!

 

[BobHufford]

You can probably find answers in this thread:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-borsalino-brotherhood.13133/

Nice hat BTW!

 

[CuratedCaps]

You can probably find answers in this thread:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-borsalino-brotherhood.13133/

Nice hat BTW!

Thanks Bob, I had a look and have seen very little mention of the Erodispo. I'm also not sure how to post directly into the thread - I'm rather new to these forum sites.

 

[jlee562]

The H and N pins are the previous owners initials. Never heard any claim they were related to production, that info is on the label. Also never heard of anyone replacing a liner tip. That's an onion skin liner that were used before plastic ones came into use. A wind cord does not really help with dating, no.

 

[jeffgarf]

Hi everyone,

First post so I'm not sure if I've posted this in the right way or thread, please let me know if I need to post differently.

I recently came into possession of what appears to be a vintage Borsalino Erodispo, and it has turned into a bit of an obsession.

From the research I've done so far, I've managed to establish a few things (or at least I think I have!):

• It's an Erodispo model (the original paper model label is still under the liner).
• It was originally sold through Meyer Chapellerie in Solothurn, Switzerland, based on the retailer's stamp on the sweatband.
• It has the H and N pins on the sweatband. I've read these may be factory or production identifiers on older Borsalinos, but I'd love to know if that's actually correct.
• The yellow liner may actually be the original protective liner rather than a later replacement.
• My best guess is that it could date from Borsalino's golden era, possibly the 1950s, although I'd love to know whether the hat itself supports or disproves that.
• What I initially assumed was a broken string tucked behind the ribbon may actually be a wind trolley/wind cord. Is that correct, and if so, does its presence help date the hat?

I've attached plenty of photos because I'm hoping someone with more experience can tell me what I'm actually looking at.

Does anything immediately jump out to you?

Can the liner, sweatband, logo, stitching or construction help date it more accurately?

Is the Erodispo designation particularly desirable or unusual?

The more I research Borsalino, the more fascinating the history seems to become, so I'd really appreciate any thoughts from people who know these older hats.

Thanks!

The hat is from the 1936-1953 period. Erodispo is a known homburg model.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

The H and N pins are the previous owners initials. Never heard any claim they were related to production, that info is on the label. Also never heard of anyone replacing a liner tip. That's an onion skin liner that were used before plastic ones came into use. A wind cord does not really help with dating, no.

Jared tell everything usefull to explain the Borsalino. Size 5 (french scale for size, used by Giuseppe Borsalino because he was in French as young worker in the hats workmanship) means 57 cm. in Europe. It is a lobbia (homburg) with huge brims and black. The shape was for the North Europe market, in Italy the lobbia had more compact and curvy dimensions. You can see in the collection of Steve (mayserwegener) some homburg with the same shape made in central Europe. For the date I can say it was made after the WW II and more in the late 50 and early 60 than before