Show us their suits

Two Types · Aug 28, 2012

Looking at George's suit, I wondered about the belt on his trousers. It appears to be very light coloured: I know it is difficult to tell from screen grabs but, is it a belt made from the same fabric as the suit?

Mario · Aug 28, 2012

Yes, I wondered about that too. Defnitely looks like it's made from the same fabric. I have a 50's suit (very Zootish) with a belt made from the same fabric.

herringbonekid · Aug 28, 2012

TT, the belt looks like the same fabric to me.

the plus fours are cut VERY voluminously and i wonder if they were done extra wide to emphasise the fact that he's just spent a load of money on a flash suit (which is the point of this scene):

Mario · Aug 28, 2012

Oh dear, those trousers are WIDE... :eeek:

herringbonekid · Aug 28, 2012

i find plus fours a bit comical at the best of times. i think they've ramped it up here deliberately.

Mario · Aug 28, 2012

herringbonekid said:
i find plus fours a bit comical at the best of times.

Amen to that. There are a very few people who actually manage to wear them with at least a bit of dignity but usually they just look odd to me and make me chuckle. I certainly wouldn't be caught dead wearing plus fours.

Two Types · Aug 28, 2012

They certainly look as if they have been deliberately fashioned to be extra wide to make George look ridiculous. I don't recall seeing period photographs with plus fours that are quite that wide.

I agree that plus fours are something that would be difficult to wear. But it all depends on circumstances. I have a pair of plus-2s that I had made specifically for walking/cycling. I have only once worn them in the city. There was deep snow (well, it was deep snow for London) so I wore the plus-2s with heavy brown boots, flat cap and a leather coat (a Swedish police car coat, I believe). That combination looked very central European and I didn't feel ridiculous - as i would have done were i to have been wearing a 1930s golfing outfit.

herringbonekid · Aug 28, 2012

TT, i agree that plus fours can look good for certain specific sporting outfits.

also, when they were in fashion you wouldn't stand out nearly half as much as you would today...

Baron Kurtz · Aug 28, 2012

how short is Ham Hamilton's tie!!

Two Types · Aug 28, 2012

It's the length of tie I get when i try to wear my Tootal Boys tie with the wonderful space ship design ......

Baron Kurtz · Aug 28, 2012

I do like George's knickers suit. I would have less voluminous legs, but that is certainly one I'd wear …

Fletch · Aug 28, 2012

herringbonekid said:
TT, i agree that plus fours can look good for certain specific sporting outfits.

also, when they were in fashion you wouldn't stand out nearly half as much as you would today...

These guys were the dot.com startup of their day. Makes me wish I was their age, working 100hr weeks and living on baked beans and coffee, so I could wear those insane sweaters without looking like a Norwegian hot air balloon.

Not that you care, but 3 of these guys (Harman, Ising, Hamilton) ended up being the competition when they jumped ship for Warner Bros. That was 1930. By then the exuberance in dress had calmed down a little.

l-r: Hugh, Rudy, Honey and Bosko

Fletch · Aug 28, 2012

He was famous then

Frank (Spike) Kelly, Chicago welterweight, with manager Harry Gilmore Jr., 1913.

Photo by George Grantham Bain. Bain Collection, Library of Congress.

herringbonekid · Aug 28, 2012

Fletch said:
Not that you care, but 3 of these guys (Harman, Ising, Hamilton) ended up being the competition when they jumped ship for Warner Bros. That was 1930.

actually i do care; i work in animation.

Iwerks also became competition (for a while) setting up his own studio in 1930.

Qirrel · Aug 28, 2012

Two Types said:
Looking at George's suit, I wondered about the belt on his trousers. It appears to be very light coloured: I know it is difficult to tell from screen grabs but, is it a belt made from the same fabric as the suit?

I think this is a belt which is permanently attached to the suit. I have a suit with this feature; the belt runs in a tunnel all the way around so that it has the appearance of a buckle fastening from the front.

suits lover · Sep 15, 2012

I think that Frank Sinatra deserve a place here.

Tomasso · Sep 15, 2012

suits lover said:
I think that Frank Sinatra deserve a place here.

Sure, if you find a photo of him wearing a suit.

Guttersnipe · Sep 15, 2012

Here's "Ole Blue Eyes" showing us all how it's done . . . definitely a man who wore the clothes rather than the other way around. I love the dramatic Hollywood waist here:

Mario · Sep 17, 2012

Stuff Smith (just now listening to 'I se a-muggin''

). Look at those dumbo lapels!

GoldenEraFan · Sep 18, 2012

herringbonekid said:
actually i do care; i work in animation.
Iwerks also became competition (for a while) setting up his own studio in 1930.

I need to get on this bandwagon, I work in animation too! What do you do herringbonekid?

Iwerks was working at MGM in the early '30s making Flip the Frog cartoons, but later rejoined the Disney. A great animator and inventor, he would go on to make many animation innovations over the years. The Disney studio itself before the late '60s was definitely filled with well dressed employee's. Even as casual of a setting a California animation studio was, those animators still put effort into their wardrobe. Besides looking at old photographs of the 9 old men animating my favorite features, it's fun to see how they dressed, which was casual, but classy. Ward Kimball especially.

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