Anyone ever hear of 'Stetson Ermine Series B'?

alanfgag · Dec 7, 2020

drmaxtejeda said:
Thank you, Alan! I didn't have to ask you about this one!

Looking forward to seeing more details when you receive it. Hope Graham can breathe some new life into the felt. From the photos you can see it has great "crush."

Just Daniel · Dec 7, 2020

The advertisement says Stetson will refurb it for free for the life of the hat. I say you contact them just for fun

drmaxtejeda said:
He says he is eager to restore this one, and has finished restoring my MacLachland Golden Beaver Hundred. Pics in the Optimo thread, Jim
He also says that he will restore hats that are worth restoring, not only mine..

suitedcboy · Dec 8, 2020

alanfgag said:
Looking forward to seeing more details when you receive it. Hope Graham can breathe some new life into the felt. From the photos you can see it has great "crush."

When bash becomes smash.

drmaxtejeda · Dec 13, 2020

My brother in law found the Ermine certificate, ermine tails, ribbon, and silver medallion inside the leather case.
It turns out mine is hat number 6 in series G

Frunobulax · Dec 13, 2020

drmaxtejeda said:
My brother in law found the Ermine certificate, ermine tails, ribbon, and silver medallion inside the leather case.
It turns out mine is hat number 6 in series G View attachment 289068 View attachment 289069 View attachment 289070 View attachment 289071 View attachment 289072 View attachment 289073 View attachment 289074

Way cool, Max!

drmaxtejeda · Dec 13, 2020

Frunobulax said:
Way cool, Max!

Thanks, Jim!

drmaxtejeda · Aug 3, 2022

I forgot to post pics of my Ermine in this thread. I ended up sending it to Optimo. There is one of Graham Thompson wearing it. It took two months to get it back. More pics in the Hard to Find thread. I have a video of Graham restoring it, and I posted it on the FL Facebookm

Hurricane Jack · Dec 25, 2023

Amon Carter met Winston Churchill for the first time in London, Dec 1942. In appreciation & admiration Carter had Stetson make an Ermine & Pure Beaver fur hat which was then forwarded to Churchill thru the White House on May 21, 1943. (Carter’s son, Amon Carter Jr had joined the US Army as a lieutenant in 1941 & was captured as a POW in March, 1943).

B&W pic of the hat & case.

Churchill acknowledged his acceptance of the gift on May 25th, 1943

Carter’s telegram of June 7th, 1943

Winston Churchill was pictured with the hat on the front page of the New York Times sometime in December 1943, along with President Franklin Roosevelt & Mr. & Mrs. Chiang Kai-shek, documenting their meeting.

RossRYoung · Dec 25, 2023

Great research, Jack! Would be amazing to see another of these surface.

Hurricane Jack · Dec 25, 2023

RossRYoung said:
Great research, Jack! Would be amazing to see another of these surface.

Thanks Ross. I have info on the Ermine hat Carter gifted to Roosevelt, but have found no pics so far. Carter also bought an Ermine for himself.

steur · Dec 27, 2023

Hurricane Jack said:
Amon Carter met Winston Churchill for the first time in London, Dec 1942. In appreciation & admiration Carter had Stetson make an Ermine & Pure Beaver fur hat which was then forwarded to Churchill thru the White House on May 21, 1943. (Carter’s son, Amon Carter Jr had joined the US Army as a lieutenant in 1941 & was captured as a POW in March, 1943).

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B&W pic of the hat & case.

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Churchill acknowledged his acceptance of the gift on May 25th, 1943

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Carter’s telegram of June 7th, 1943

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Winston Churchill was pictured with the hat on the front page of the New York Times sometime in December 1943, along with President Franklin Roosevelt & Mr. & Mrs. Chiang Kai-shek, documenting their meeting.

Apparently Churchill wore a size 7 1/8. A bit large for me, but it may have shrunk a bit over time. So I'll take it.
Great research, Jack.

drmaxtejeda · Dec 27, 2023

steur said:
Apparently Churchill wore a size 7 1/8. A bit large for me, but it may have shrunk a bit over time. So I'll take it.
Great research, Jack.

Small-headed dudes are plentiful. Large-headed dudes are rare. 7 3/8 dudes are just right.

Hurricane Jack · Dec 28, 2023

steur said:
Apparently Churchill wore a size 7 1/8. A bit large for me, but it may have shrunk a bit over time. So I'll take it.
Great research, Jack.

Thank you Stefan. Safe to say the Stetson Ermines that belonged to Mr. Churchill, Mr. Roosevelt, & Mr. Carter are now among their memoirs & personal effects in museums. I have seen B&W pics of Carter wearing a light colored wide ribbon, & now am wondering if it was his Ermine. The hat in those pics was not identified.

Hurricane Jack · Dec 31, 2023

New York Times, Dec 2, 1943 front page pic including Prime Minister Churchill & his Stetson Ermine hat.

Hurricane Jack · Jan 1, 2024

Amon Carter’s letter of Nov 21, 1941 to Edwin M. Watson, Whitehouse Appointments Secretary to President Franklin D. Roosevelt documents the Stetson Ermine beaver hat in 7-3/8 gifted to the President; that there had only been “about 10” Ermine hats sold in the US at that time; & that Carter also purchased one for himself. The $150.00 insurance policy that came with each Ermine hat from Stetson was good for one yr.

Carter’s letter of Oct 3, 1942 to Grace Tully, Private Secretary to the President further discusses the Ermine & beaver fur felt the hat was made from; how to locate further documentation behind the liner in the leather case; Stetson’s renovation service as needed & the $150.00 insurance policy. The letter also documents a leather belt with sterling silver buckle apparently gifted by Carter to the President.

Hurricane Jack · Jan 3, 2024

Amon Carter’s hat is not identified in these pics but I suspect it is the Stetson Ermine & beaver fur that Carter purchased for himself. The timing is right, these pics were taken May 5th, 1945 on the release of his son from the Nazi Prison Camp Oflag 64 after 27 months as a POW.

Pic taken May 5th, 1946 at the first anniversary reunion of the POW’s of Oflag 64.

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