Haha...bag of leather! This is exactly what I'm coming to realize: I don't have broad shoulders and a slim waist. I'm a cylinder, so there isn't really a good way to "build up" a shoulder in one of these jackets the way one can in other tailored clothing. In fact, I'd suppose that for v-shaped patterns, I'll likely need to order a size to fit my narrow shoulders and then let out the waist (at least that's what I did for the Hooch Hauler that's in the oven...hope that works...). In other words, I don't think a "V" is in my future. But that's fine. I just want things to fit well and look as good as they can on _me_ in some relation/balance to the strengths of the silhouettes themselves. But this is why I also asked about other patterns. Are there optimal Aero patterns for slim, cylindrical types? For example, I feel like I read somewhere that the Board Racer is generally more cylindrical, while the Cafe Racer is more V'd (or perhaps I have that backwards...)? Is the premier 30s HB as bag-o-leather as the PHWM?