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[ABCD]

1. Wax the threads so they don't fray and wear out so fast.

Most new jackets have polyester thread. Poly thread doesn't need any conditioner. Actually, conditioner won't do anything to it.

As far as the leather drying out, I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's a new jacket, with normal wear it'll take decades for the leather to become dry.

 

[Aloysius]

Probably right about the drying out. I read one story of someone's arm seam that came off from the armpit section, and the repairer said the leather was very dry, but maybe it was an older jacket, although at the time I thought it didn't look so old.

Do you mean the Freewheelers one?

I think that was more a function of certain Japanese brands' tendency to both skive seams and have high stitch density combined with denim bros' tendency to downsize everything. Turns seams into postage stamps lol.

 

[Will Zach]

Yes it may have been that one haha. The problem is, I myself own these Japanese leather jackets! So hence the worry

I think wax may help a little in this situation, actually. It will help the thread slide inside the holes instead of biting into the leather and cutting it. But "little" is an operative word here. If, as @Aloysius says, the leather is skived (thin), stitch density high (perf), and garment undersized, then any significant stress may cause catastrophic failure at the seam.

 

[Manolito]

@ jojothenorthstar

I owe a recent Schott 257, their famous civil B3, that I bought around 2019, and it must be noticed that it was sold new, hand-vintaged by their factory ! Maybe the one you bought was this way too and it is why it does not look brand new.

It is just a matter of style and taste, but it does not compromise the quality or durability of the garnment which remains of the high Schott usual standards ! Personaly it is one of my favourite jacket, but i am a bit of a Schott fanboy !

The only problem is that it this jacket is getting crazy expensive, especialy in Europe where it is now around 1800-2000 € (I bought mine new around 1300 € five years ago !) ! Way more than the Aero that seems to be about 1200 €...

 

[Biff42]

For a zip only, probably Dena or JL. I’d send Vanson back to Vanson but did recently have Dena install a two-way 10 Riri on my Force.

I sent my jackets to Dena and she's been great to work with. I have an LW needing a new zipper she'll be working on once her arm heals from a recent surgery. Thanks for the tip.

 

[JMax]

I sent my jackets to Dena and she's been great to work with. I have an LW needing a new zipper she'll be working on once her arm heals from a recent surgery. Thanks for the tip.

She is great. Make sure to speak with her about the LW and thick hide. She did three LW main zips for me and politely asked me not to send anymore lol. She did not like the super thick hides; difficult to work on.

 

[Biff42]

She is great. Make sure to speak with her about the LW and thick hide. She did three LW main zips for me and politely asked me not to send anymore lol. She did not like the super thick hides; difficult to work on.

I spoke with her today and told her to keep the LW as long as she needs to. Those 5 gauge zips on the LW don't cut it with that thick hide!

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

She is great. Make sure to speak with her about the LW and thick hide. She did three LW main zips for me and politely asked me not to send anymore lol. She did not like the super thick hides; difficult to work on.

Just curious... since you own a lot of LWs, how often do you find yourself having to replace them? And are these the infamous crowns?

 

[JMax]

Just curious... since you own a lot of LWs, how often do you find yourself having to replace them? And are these the infamous crowns?

The crowns are beautiful and ******proof. Never an issue. If I went new I’d at least get the main Crown zip. The 10 Talons are damn good. I had issues on two jackets with the tape on the main Scoville zips. The third, I can’t recall what the zip was, maybe Talon, was a little frayed on the bottom but still good to go, I just wanted a two-way zip.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

The crowns are beautiful and ******proof. Never an issue. If I went new I’d at least get the main Crown zip. The 10 Talons are damn good. I had issues on two jackets with the tape on the main Scoville zips. The third, I can’t recall what the zip was, maybe Talon, was a little frayed on the bottom but still good to go, I just wanted a two-way zip.

Thanks, figured the Crown would replace me before I got a chance to. Will definitely go with it as main zip after seeing this feedback from longtime owner.

 

[cbez]

can anyone ID this schott model? I think it's an older japan model like a 643, but I haven't seen them with the slanted upper pocket and higher placed waist cinches.

 

[Monitor]

It's the 689H, current iteration of this collared style. Still available on Schott NYC. One of my all time favorite jackets by Schott.

can anyone ID this schott model? I think it's an older japan model like a 643, but I haven't seen them with the slanted upper pocket and higher placed waist cinches.
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[cbez]

It's the 689H, current iteration of this collared style. Still available on Schott NYC. One of my all time favorite jackets by Schott.

Oops dunno how I missed that one. thanks.

 

[cbez]

please tell me all the reasons I should not buy a grizzly jacket in socal

 

[Observe]

please tell me all the reasons I should not buy a grizzly jacket in socal

Too warm.

 

[unhatted]

please tell me all the reasons I should not buy a grizzly jacket in socal

This is a subjective thing, but do they maybe belong to that genre of jackets that you would have thought looked a bit silly before you got ‘into jackets’? If so you could try and channel that earlier self?

 

[torfjord]

Do you mean the Freewheelers one?

I think that was more a function of certain Japanese brands' tendency to both skive seams and have high stitch density combined with denim bros' tendency to downsize everything. Turns seams into postage stamps lol.

I might be wrong but I think it was a Fine creek?

 

[Aloysius]

I might be wrong but I think it was a Fine creek?

It's happened with both.

The Freewheelers one was on here, the sleeve ripped off at the shoulder.

The FCL Robert ripped open at the underarm gusset on first wear, on Styleforum.

FCL (like Simmons Bilt with the mis-sized jackets) refused to take any responsibility for the faulty construction, even though it was bought through an authorized dealer in the US, and offered only to do a repair at the shop's expense. (The owner thought that was unfair to the shop so he didn't send it to FCL at shop's expense since they should have taken responsibility.)

 

[MrProper]

please tell me all the reasons I should not buy a grizzly jacket in socal

There is no reason not to buy them. What must be, must be.

 

[Aloysius]

please tell me all the reasons I should not buy a grizzly jacket in socal

You should not buy a grizzly jacket* in SoCal.

*with mouton panels

You should buy a grizzly jacket with the much more cool looking hair-on-hide panels in SoCal.