Clear Beaver Stetson 100

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  1. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    This Stetson 100 arrived earlier this week. Most of the Stetson 100's I have seen are generally silver belly in color. This one is a dead-on match for a 7X Clear Beaver. Really beautiful color. Judging by the Stetson crest info in this thread, I have a feeling that this could be one of the earliest versions of the Stetson 100. The felt is extremely dense and smooth, as is typical of this model. Although the crown is stiffer than on a 7X CB, the brim is almost as soft. Whether this is just a function of being handled for a longer period of time is hard to say -- but, I would have to say that, overall, this Stetson 100 is just a bit softer than later versions I have handled. The felt is in beautiful condition. Tragically, however, the stitches attaching the sweat to the hat seem to have reached the end of the road. As I tried the hat on, I heard a couple of "pops" as the stiches gave out. The hat fits perfectly, but the stitching is just a no go. So, sadly, it looks like I'll have to have Optimo replace the sweat -- something I'll definitely do, since this one is going to see a lot of time on my noggin'. :)

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    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  2. GWD

    GWD One Too Many

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    WOW! Really Beautiful JTL!
     
  3. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Thanks, Gary -- good to see you back! :)

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  4. carouselvic

    carouselvic I'll Lock Up

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    Well, I suppose I'd wear it. TLH
     
  5. animator

    animator One of the Regulars

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    Beautiful hat! You're a lucky guy.
     
  6. Michaelshane

    Michaelshane One Too Many

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    I have this one going to Optimo for the same problem,Stitches letting go.The wind string is rotten too,very old hat I think.

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    The liner and sweat are identical to yours.
     
  7. tortswon

    tortswon Practically Family

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    What a beauty, Jimmy! Sorry about the sweat. I share your pain on that, the same thing happened to my Stratoliner. I sent mine off to Art and he replaced it. The original sweat sits in the box with the hat, like an internal organ of a mummified pharoah. The consolation is that when I wear the hat, no one sees the sweat and I don't think about it. And the new sweat is more comfortable than the dries brittle one would be. Wear it well. Best, Sam
     
  8. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    Wooooo, that is a good one indeed. I like the photos and descriptions you share with us. Next best thing, y'know? :) Is it just stitching (meaning threads breaking) or is the actual leather tearing through where the stitches are?
     
  9. Michaelshane

    Michaelshane One Too Many

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    I like the box too.Do you think it's the one the hat came in?



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  10. RBH

    RBH Bartender

    Sweet!
     
  11. CRH

    CRH Call Me a Cab

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    All I can do is shake my head in admiration :eusa_clap.
     
  12. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    First of all, many thanks, Gents. ;)

    Gene, the sweatband itself is in beautiful shape, and it is securely attached to the reed material -- no problem with the stitching whatsoever. What's giving way is the stitching that secures the reed material itself to the hat. Given this state of affairs, I'm wondering if it might not be possible to re-attach the original sweat. That would be a fantastic result -- but I just don't know...

    michaelshane -- that particular box didn't come with the hat. Stetson had two hat boxes that featured Carpenter's Hall in Philadelphia. This was the original version. :)

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
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  13. Felt and Straw

    Felt and Straw Familiar Face

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    Beautiful

    That is a beautiful hat!

    I'm curious to know the width of the brim. It looks awesome!
     
  14. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    I would make a firm effort to get a hatter to see it that way if at all possible, even if it meant some hand sewing which falls outside of the regular price sheet. Good luck with that process.

    Please update us on what you are told about whether it can be done, etc. It'll be educational for a number of us vintage hat enthusiasts around here with similar sweatband situations.
     
  15. Woodfluter

    Woodfluter Practically Family

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    First off Jimmy, that's a totally gorgeous hat! Congrats!
    Well worth sending to Optimo.

    Like Gene, I would like to know if they can refurbish it with the original sweatband. From your description I'd certainly think they could.

    So I take it that the broken stitches were not through the leather, but rather through some fabric to which the leather was attached and then long-stitched to the felt. Right?

    If the stitches were through the leather, you could replace them by hand and easily guide the needle back into the original holes. If done with machine, this gets more tricky. If the stitches were in the fabric, shouldn't this be very easy?

    Side question:
    How come we see some quite old hats where the stitching is very sound, and then others (often newer) that are breaking? Any ideas? Exposure to sweat, storage condition, different types of thread?

    - Bill
     
  16. feltfan

    feltfan My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Can't quite make out the difference in color between this one
    and your other 100s. Mind sending it my way for a closer look?

    Nice lid.
     
  17. Pera.T

    Pera.T One of the Regulars

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    Stunning Stetson!
     
  18. Spats McGee

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    Another beauty there, JtL!
     
  19. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Right you are, Bill. The plastic-y material covering the reed extends into a kind of flap. The leather sweat itself is attached to the reed/flap. In turn, it is this flap that is sewn to the felt, thereby attaching the sweat to the hat. The stitches holding the flap to the hat seem to be giving out (see first photo). The stitches holding the leather sweat to the flap itself (the brown stitches visible in the photos), however, seem to be in fine shape (see second photo). So, the question will be -- is it possible to re-attach this flap to the hat so that the original sweat can be salvaged.


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    Cheers,
    JtL
     
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